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post #1 of 11 Old 07-26-2013, 10:16 PM Thread Starter
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Possible new horse.. and board

Hi there --

I have a question for you all. Tomorrow morning, I'm going to be looking at a horse to get. Normally, the horse would be sold for however many dollars, but due to circumstances, the owner is willing to let the horse go for free, pending that it stays at the current barn where it is. The horse hasn't been ridden, and just put out to pasture for the last few months. This is fantastic news for me.. except for one aspect:

I'm not financially able to start boarding until September. I don't know if anyone else has run into a similar situation.. but is it possible to ask to continue riding it/ taking care of it until the boarding starts? Or work off board until September? How does that question even come up?

Is this something that boarding facilities can accomodate?

Thanks in advance.
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post #2 of 11 Old 07-26-2013, 10:29 PM
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My only concern is if she "gives" you the horse for free make sure you get a contract. She may give you a huge hard time if you decide you may want to move the horse to another barn elsewhere.
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post #3 of 11 Old 07-26-2013, 10:58 PM
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I agree with ^. You need to make sure you get everything in writing -what if you wish to move the horse at a later date?

You need to ensure that the contract states a change of ownership not just a free lease.

With the boarding - the only thing you can do is advise of your situation. September is only a month away, but you need to be honest up front and make sure you can afford to keep this horse for the long run. The most expensive part of the horse is the ongoing costs not the initial price.

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post #4 of 11 Old 07-26-2013, 11:23 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the advice. I'll definitely make sure to get something in writing that the horse is free, and no penalties should be held against me if I decide to move.

Financially.. I'm able to care for the horse in the long run. I'm getting all brand new tack/equipment, which gets costly... then pay for the first, and last month of boarding.
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post #5 of 11 Old 07-27-2013, 12:23 AM
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To the OP, even if this is a gift you are still taking ownership of this horse - and that's what needs to be very clear on the paperwork.

The question of where you take the horse and when shouldn't be raised on the ownership papers because as the new owner you don't have to consult anyone.

Sure, you can talk to the 'old owner' and agree to try to stay at the current barn in the near future, but you need to have the conversation NOW that covers the possibility that you will at some point move! If the old owner is going to get irrational or emotional about you taking the horse away I suggest you find that out now, rather than one year down the line when you do try to move.

You don't want a wailing woman slashing your tires or locking your stable door....

As to the start of your boarding contract. Be realistic: if you can't take ownership of the horse until September, then say so. Start off this horse ownership the right way, not in debt or in some kind of work-off arrangement. If the old owner can't accept a delay of 30 odd days then I suggest you don't want to be entering this deal with her at all.
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post #6 of 11 Old 07-27-2013, 12:46 AM
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Once you have the bill of sale in hand she can no longer tell you what to do with the horse. Either you get the horse free and clear or you walk. Do you know if the horse is sound or has health issues. Perhaps it has major rider issues. You want a bill of sale marked Paid in Full, not a written agreement. Tell her you'd like to try the horse out a few times first. Don't be blinded by "free".
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post #7 of 11 Old 07-27-2013, 01:57 AM
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I would want to know Why the horse is to stay at the current barn? That just sounds wrong.
If she will not give you a bill of sale paid in full , get a transfer of ownership stating there are no Conditions , exclusions etc, that the old owner relinquishes the horse to you and has no option , condition etc or use of the horse from whatever date.
I would see if ownership could be transferred in Sept. If not, is the BO willing to let you work for the board ? I would have it in contract form, and be very very specific about the amount of time you are to work, and what the 'chores ' are specifically.. cleaning , feeding etc.
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post #8 of 11 Old 07-27-2013, 02:52 AM
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How long does she expect you to keep the horse at the same facility?
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post #9 of 11 Old 07-29-2013, 12:29 PM
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I wouldn't accept a horse with the caveat that it remains at the same facility indefinitely. If it's yours, it's yours, and you can do with it what you want. If the current owner isn't willing to accept that you might move the horse eventually (might be one month... might be one year... might be never) then I'd walk away.

We don't have all the backstory here, but in general I'd be wary about taking on a free horse that doesn't have serious issues disclosed. People don't tend to give away horses that they could sell (unless they know the person they're giving the horse to VERY well and know that person can handle whatever issues the horse has). The horse may have serious behavioral or medical issues. It sounds like you weren't already familiar with this horse, so be extra vigilant. Pay attention to whether or not the horse seems drugged when you go to see it, and get a vet to do a pre-purchase exam before you accept the horse. A free horse can cost you a lot of money in the long run.
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post #10 of 11 Old 07-29-2013, 12:36 PM Thread Starter
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Thank you everyone for your input. It turns out, it wasn't the right horse for me afterall. Great horse, just not the right one for me.
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