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    01-09-2012, 02:52 PM
  #21
Yearling
I have kept my horses at several places where there was a mix of what UK people call DIY (and Yanks call self-care) and full livery. So far, I have yet to be convinced that this is a good idea. Horses were being brought in from turn-out at different times, and while the BO insisted they all be fed together, the rule was that the last person at the stable in the evening fed everyone, thus the horses could get dinner any time between 5 and 9pm. This uncertainty in the routine made most of the horses a little bit neurotic (one cob even tried to jump a five bar gate), and mine a lot neurotic, which was one of the reasons I found her a new barn. When my horse could be brought in from the field any time between 3 and 7, and the schedule of her barnmates was even more random, she developed the habit of pacing the fenceline incessantly.
     
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    01-09-2012, 03:36 PM
  #22
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by thesilverspear    
I have kept my horses at several places where there was a mix of what UK people call DIY (and Yanks call self-care) and full livery. So far, I have yet to be convinced that this is a good idea. Horses were being brought in from turn-out at different times, and while the BO insisted they all be fed together, the rule was that the last person at the stable in the evening fed everyone, thus the horses could get dinner any time between 5 and 9pm. This uncertainty in the routine made most of the horses a little bit neurotic (one cob even tried to jump a five bar gate), and mine a lot neurotic, which was one of the reasons I found her a new barn. When my horse could be brought in from the field any time between 3 and 7, and the schedule of her barnmates was even more random, she developed the habit of pacing the fenceline incessantly.
How would a person know if they were going to be the last one there? Someone could come after they left.
     
    01-09-2012, 05:36 PM
  #23
Yearling
Aye, someone could do. But the BO and owners would have had the feeds made up and waiting -- if you did show up at the barn late and the feeds weren't out, it meant someone had already fed them. There were only three or four liveries at any given time, so you could figure it out easy enough. The main issue, as I saw it, was that the horses found it quite stressful not knowing when they were going to be fed.
     
    01-09-2012, 05:50 PM
  #24
Green Broke
Having come from Australia and always done everything myself it took a little while to relinquish control to someone else in regards to my horse's every day care. I have boarded at two places here and both have taken wonderful care of my horse.

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Originally Posted by wild_spot    
Such a different culture! I can't even imagine not having 100% control over my horses care. Though some days when i'm out there in the rain feeding, I think it would be nice, lol!
I am now spoiled rotten and don't think I would want to go back to shouldering all the responsibility in between working and studying!

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Originally Posted by ChingazMyBoy    
Is it just my area, or is it an Australian thing? We don't tend to do full-care and we seem to do more self-care?
I think it is much more common in Australia to do everything yourself and often agistment is really just the right to put your horse on someone's property - everything else is up to the owner.

If there is one thing that continually amazes me about America is that if there is a way to make something easier, faster or more ergonomic, it is available! On top of that, most things are also cheaper!
     
    01-09-2012, 07:00 PM
  #25
Yearling
I find full livery in the UK to be a bit odd compared to full-care in the US. At the stables I boarded at in the US (and there were a lot of them as I had to move around a lot during university), the BOs gave the horse owners far space to care and make decisions for their horse however they saw fit, and feeding, blanketing, et. Al. Was much more of a team effort between horse owner and barn owner. If the BO felt something needed to be changed, they would say, "I think we should up her feed," and vice versa. Here, BOs are much more likely to make decisions *for* you unless you step in far more proactively and insist that this is how you want it done. And even then, they may argue with you. I've found a kind of "paradigm" amongst BOs in the UK that your average horse owner is a numpty who's decisions for their horse can and should be overruled. For instance, I've had running battles with a few successive BOs about how my horse should be rugged. Drives me nuts but it seems to be a part of the horse culture.

I'd love to have my horse on DIY, but for that to work I need to be living within ten minutes or less of the barn and all horses at the barn need to be on the same schedule -- not like your average chaotic DIY barn -- or she will pace the fence.
     
    01-10-2012, 12:34 AM
  #26
Foal
I am a self care boarder of 4 horses. I rent a barn and a couple of acres of grazing pasture. I have to run 300' hose to the owner's well to get water. I have no electricity.
The barn was built for goats. Luckily I have my own horse panels because I had to make my own horse stalls. I made 4 large cozy stalls. But when the owner said I could use the back pasture I took my round pen panels and I use them as a fence. I can now leave them turned out 24/7.
I feed 2x a day and I work a rotating schedule. Some days I feed at 4 a.m. In the dark and when I work the late shift I feed in the dark. I spend a couple of hours everyday during the work week with them rain or shine. I look forward to the weekends and holidays that is when I spend all day with them. They are alot of work, but I really enjoy doing it all myself. The only bad thing is after I moved all my stuff out there and cleaned the area up the owner told me he took a new job in New Mexico and will be selling his house and property after the holidays:( I am hoping and praying the new owners will let me continue to rent the barn and pasture cause my horses love not being stalled up. BTW I still clean my house and manage to feed my husband before I run out the door.LOL
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    01-12-2012, 09:41 AM
  #27
mls
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Originally Posted by natisha    
I don't take away the control of the owners. I take away the work & the worry.
Exactly.

It is up to both the horse owner and the barn owner to communicate.

Ask up front what you 'need' for your horse. If it is not offered, don't expect to get it just because you move in and then complain.

Same with BO's - interview and feel out the barn jumpers.

We post rules and a copy is included with every board contract. The rules are for the benefit of E V E R Y O N E.
     
    01-12-2012, 07:54 PM
  #28
Foal
I don't think a BO can take the worry away from a horse owner. We horse owners worry about our horses no matter who cares for them.
     
    01-13-2012, 10:48 PM
  #29
Weanling
I have a self care boarder at our barn now. She takes excellent care of her horses... OTHER than a few things :)

-Thinks its ok to come out at noon for AM feedings.
-thinks its ok to feed horses early/late for PM feedings while others around are nickering. I've had horses colic from watching others eat.

I have since taken over AM feedings as she is very reliable about PM bc she comes after work. I will not offer self care again. This was the one and only time and not again :)
     
    01-13-2012, 11:28 PM
  #30
Started
The reasons you stated are quite good and I'm glad you posted this because I also didn't understand the "downs" of self care... now I understand. ;)
     

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