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post #11 of 25 Old 11-01-2012, 03:41 PM Thread Starter
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Well just in case anyone was curious.. I stalled him during the storm. He was cranky and cold (shivering) despite being sheeted and dry. This was Sunday. I brought him in, warmed him up and stuffed him into a bigger blanket. When I left he was stupidly happy and eating hay. Before I got there he was just being miserable and not eating (speaking of which, why don't shelters ever seem to have feeders? It's like the option is either have shelter or eat). I let him out for a while Monday morning and by Monday late mornin he wanted to go back in and basically RAN into the stall. 99% of the time he has excellent manners! He stayed in durin the storm win the BO checking on him and the others and be was happy and comfy the whole time. Last night I brought him in for dinner and again he ran into the looks like for the winter he is going to be stalled overnight LOL. It's not even that cold (30-40's). He just seems so absurdly happy in the stall at night that he has guilt tripped me into it. Once spring hits, my board drops back to $200. I can afford the upgrade, I just would've rather had the money. Oh well!
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post #12 of 25 Old 11-01-2012, 04:03 PM
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It sounds like you're happy and relieved with the decision, and I would say that just as long as there's daily turn-out and he is indeed turned out for the whole day, that should be fine. My horses are at home with a run in shed so they can come and go as they need/please when the weather's bad - I remember worrying about things occasionally when my first was briefly boarded, (having never owned an animal that wasn't physically at my home) and it's a much better experience to have that nagging feeling off your shoulders when you can't be there. Good luck!
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Glad it worked out for you. My lot were in and gave me no doubt that was where they wanted to be as we were almost mowed over in the rush. They were all shivering even though they had waterproof sheets on and very spooked up but as soon as they were in their stalls they settled down and relaxed.
My horses have no appreciation of living a natural life since any natural was bred out of them a long time ago. Given the choice of standing out in 4 ft of snow or driving rain competing for food and eating their very own pile of hay in the warm dry stable they always vote for the stable!!!!
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post #14 of 25 Old 11-19-2012, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by DancingArabian View Post
Not a bash, but it is definitely something to consider. My horse had a VERY NOTICEABLE hematoma and she missed it. He wasn't blanketed at the moment, so it wasn't covered up. I know she missed it because when I pulled up, she had apologized for missing my text that I was on my way and had just turned him out a few minutes prior. It was nothing major in that it wasn't serious - probably earned himself a good kick from someone - but it was something that definitely should have been seen. I don't care if she misses a surface cut on a leg, and I'm sure she would notice a big bloody injury, but if she missed something like that, would she notice if he was colicing?

There's one stall available if he needs to be kept in, but it's not very desirable because it's out of sight of other horses and it's small - 10'x10' I think. It's more of a holding stall. If there's a big enough snowfall, there is not a place to keep him in. The farrier comes during the evenings since all of us work, and I trailer to the vet since I use a different vet than everyone else (I get deep discounts from my current vet, as they are one of those multi-vet places and I also bring my dogs/cats there so I get a multi-pet discount + no farm call if I trailer the 10 minutes there). If I had an emergency vet call, I would be with my horse.

The blanketing is the bigger thing right now, and it really is just something temporary because once the weather is cold all the time his blanket will stay on all the time anyway. He gets an unlined rain sheet on the rainy days and when it's below 50 right now (so pretty much at night). It's taken off in the mornings unless it's rainy, but it's also not getting hot enough that if I didn't do that he'd be miserable.

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I think you are obsessed with blanketing. Let him stay outside and grow hair and be a horse. As long as he has a decent shelter, plenty of hay and a water source that doesn't freeze, he will be fine.
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I think you are obsessed with blanketing. Let him stay outside and grow hair and be a horse. As long as he has a decent shelter, plenty of hay and a water source that doesn't freeze, he will be fine.
Your comment is OK but you have to consider what people do with horses on a day to day basis and not all breeds will grow thick long coats no matter how hard you try to persuade them - its all in genetics and how far removed they are from what you call 'natural' in terms of selective breeding over generations.
A lot of people - me for one - dont have heated outdoor water tanks or shelters.
You have to also think if your horse is living the 'natural life because it suits you or if it really is what he wants
Its 5.30 here and my horses are already lined up waiting to come into the barn - they will argue with each other as to who gets in first
My friend in the UK doesnt blanket her ponies as they are native breeds but she beds down their stables and leaves the doors open and thats where they choose to spend the night as the hay she puts in the field is always untouched in the morning
I dont believe in telling other people if they should blanket or not, stable or not, I will say what I do with mine but otherwise - not my horses, not my business
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None of mine get blanketed, but they do have the choice at night to go in or out of their warmly bedded stalls as they see fit.

I'd never tell someone they're 'obsessed' with blanketing. Some horses really do need them, especially if they're pasture boarded.

FWIW, my TB does get a winter coat, but it's nowhere near as thick and lush as the ones my Arabians get. If I thought he needed a blanket, he'd get one.
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My Arab is a bit fuzzy around the head but otherwise feels slightly fuzzier than he does in the summer. He doesn't have much of a coat. I delayed blanketing to see if be would grow more coat and all I ended up with was a shivering, grumpy horse. Once it hits 40, he's cold. A run in shelter is not nearly as warm as a more tightly enclosed stall (or should I say his option for a run in shelter is not as warm as the stall). You simply can't will a horse into growing more fur. Honestly if I could I wouldn't anyway! I'd have to clip it so bed be comfortable in work!

I don't mind the whole one minute process of the blanket. The BO actually worked with me and gave me a modified price for one feeding/turnout per day - so she can take his blanket off in the mornings on days it hits 60, and I see him at night anyway so I get him then. The only change to my schedule ended up being that I go to the barn 7 days a week in the evenings instead of 6.

People love to imply that he will somehow magically grow more fur if I leave him alone but that doesn't work. He eats LESS when he's cold - not more as some people seem to think. His run in shelter does not have a hay feeder (never saw one that does around here anyway) and his choice is to go in the shelter or stand in the wind and eat. He chooses the shelter when naked and the hay feeder when covered.

I will almost always choose the option that makes him a happier horse. *shrugs*
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Some people really are set against blankets. It is all fine and dandy if you live in California, but we take horses far out of their ideal environment.

It would be natural for us to be naked too.

An unobservant horse owner where I live (70 inches of rain per year, mostly in Nov.-Jan.) left her horse unblanketed in a field with a shelter. Unfortunately, the horse did not go in the shelter often enough to dry out completely. Under her thick winter coat, the horse developed rain rot so bad that her skin peeled off her entire back. It scarred badly and she can never be ridden. The horse probably wishes her owner believed in blankets.

Around here, when it is wet it is often windy. Without a waterproof sheet the horses shiver, even when huddled in with a group of horses (the natural way). I personally don't like shivering, so I doubt my horses do either. Even though it is a very "natural" way to warm up.
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^^^^ Horses are mammals - just like us. I suggest anyone who thinks that shivering will warm them up go out and stand in freezing rain or just plain rain for a few hours when its below 40F in a T shirt and see how well shivering warms them up!!!
Horses will deal with much lower temperatures of dry cold than they will hours/days of rain.
If you want to have a horse that will deal with 'natural' in really cold weather then you need something thats close to natural in breed like a Fjord, Exmoor, english shetland etc that evolved in the climates they live in and havent altered much over thousands of years but the minute you start breeding the natural out of them you need to have a back up plan or horses do suffer. If they will use shelters - and lots of them wont - you need to blanket or stable or both to suit their needs
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does the horse have some kinda run in shelter ? If so I would forgo the stall, and the clipping and the blankets.
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