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    11-24-2013, 06:13 PM
  #1
Foal
Unused Horse Stables

Hi,

I have a property with nice heated horse stables, a separate "run-in", and about 3 acres of fenced pasture. I have no clue about anything horse-related but realize there is a market for stables. Hopefully someone here can answer a few or my questions.

-Is is possible to rent out the stables so that I have absolutely nothing to do with the horses?
-Do I have to have my own insurance to cover me in the case that a horse or caretaker/rider was hurt or do horse-owners usually have insurance that covers this type of accident?
-I realize that this question is location specific, but, how much could I expect to receive, per stable, in a rural area with lots of horse-activity?
-Where are good places to advertise such a thing?

Thanks
Dan
     
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    11-24-2013, 06:56 PM
  #2
Showing
Yes, you can do that. Friends did that years ago. They were responsible for everything as tho they owned the place. Other than the monthly payment, they had nothing to do with the owner who lived on the property. The house and yard were fenced off altho everyone used the wide driveway as it went past the house to the barn. You might want to have a lawyer draw up the contract and you'll have to decide the length of time - a one year, 3 year, 5, etc.
     
    11-24-2013, 06:58 PM
  #3
Weanling
Possible, sure. Realistic, not IMHO. You'll have horses on your property, and most of the time you'll be the only one there. You'll be required to provide basic care - watering, feeding, etc - most horse owners don't come up to tend to their animals twice a day, they pay someone else to do that for them (Boarding) and it becomes your responsibility.

Horses aren't the sorts of animals that you can just put in a field or a stall and leave them for days at a time - they need to be tended to. A stalled horse needs care at least several times a day and will need to be turned out in the morning and brought back in in the evening. Even a full outside horse will still require monitoring, feeding, and watering.

And please don't take this the wrong way, but if you don't know anything about horses, you'll not be in a situation to provide proper care, or do it safely. ;)

Now, anything is possible and if you can find someone who owns a bunch of horses that lives near you, wants the entire facility for their own personal use and that of nobody else, and is willing to come up multiple times per day to tend to their animals, I suppose something could be worked out...but in the end, when they're not there (which will be the majority of the day) you'll be the go-to person. Again, in my opinion, you'd need at least a basic understanding and knowledge of horses to be able to provide even basic care and handling during those hours.
     
    11-24-2013, 07:03 PM
  #4
Weanling
As per the response above mine, as expected, you'll get different opinions. ;)

I would certainly have an iron clad legal agreement and make sure your insurance company is 110% up to speed on the situation before considering it. If you can make it work and find the right person, heck...you could probably make REALLY GOOD money if the facility sounds as nice as you suggest. Heated stable? Pretty uncommon.

The problem is going to be finding the right person who will actually pay their bills and understands that you are totally hands off. You don't want to get into any of the following situations:

1/ Broke horse owner moves their herd to your farm and promises the sky..then never pays beyond the first month. You can't exactly just let their horses go loose and rid yourself of the problem.

2/ You end up with a herd and the owner disappears for days at a time. You end up with neglected animals on your property that you either end up having to deal with (which it sounds like you don't have the knowledge), or pay someone else to provide the care instead.

3/ Something happens to a rider or a horse and you end up on the hook (or in the wringer) financially somehow. Again, I hate to think about things litigiously, but I'm a big fan of the "What if" routine, as well as CYA. ;)
     
    11-24-2013, 07:20 PM
  #5
Yearling
I am the renter in a similar situation. The farm is about a 15-20 minute drive from my house. The farm owner has 2 cows, so she agreed to monitor the water at all times. The first 9-10 months, I drove out there am & pm to feed, clean stall & check on my critters. We became really good friends & she started to offer to do the AM feedings so I wouldn't have to be out at 5am. We drew up a contract stating what she was responsible for, what I was responsible for, price per month, late fees, she has the right to contact my vet in case of emergency if I can not be reached, and that I was not responsible if her kids went into my area & were accidently hurt & she is not responsible for me being hurt on her property. I've been there 3 years now & we've never had any reason to "test" the contract
     
    11-24-2013, 08:04 PM
  #6
Green Broke
Even if you have nothing to do with the place, you will still need to have insurance. Not only for the property, but if it is used as a business, you will need insurance to cover yourself, as the property owner.

It is possible to lease or rent your property to others and you have nothing to do with the place. Make sure you have everything in writing and cover any possible circumstances.

We are renting our place from someone. There were no buildings here except a garage that was falling down. Any improvements were up to us to pay for but we have to get approval first. All upkeep is up to us. Basically, all he does is collect the rent.
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    11-24-2013, 09:22 PM
  #7
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I don't think it is all that impossible to find someone who is willing to 'self care' board at your place, I did it with my mare and filly for quite a while. I pretty much paid for space to for my horses feet to stand on and I did absolutely everything else. Mucking, trucking away manure, feeding, scheduling appointments, watering, upkeep, etc.
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    11-24-2013, 09:34 PM
  #8
Started
I agree that it's hard for boarders for the owner to be strictly hands-off; you could perhaps reach an agreement with one of the boarders that he/she acts as the barn manager, for board discount, say. Or you could hire a non-boarder horseperson to act as barn manager for a certain time(s) each day.
     
    11-24-2013, 09:35 PM
  #9
Weanling
Even if you declared yourself 'hands off' and there was a contract in place stating so, what happens when the horses' owner is not there and the horses get out? Or a severe accident with a horse that needs immediate attention before a vet can arrive? Those things will need to be considered since you would most likely be the one to witness events like that and could possibly be the first person required to take action in such a situation. It could mean the life or death of the horse(s).

I know if I was in a situation like that, even if the contract said I had nothing to do with the horses, I would feel horrible if I didn't do something to help.
     
    11-24-2013, 09:44 PM
  #10
Weanling
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Originally Posted by EdmontonHorseGal    
even if you declared yourself 'hands off' and there was a contract in place stating so, what happens when the horses' owner is not there and the horses get out? Or a severe accident with a horse that needs immediate attention before a vet can arrive?
That was exactly the scenario going through my head with my responses above.

For a 100% non horse person who doesn't know how to handle a horse effectively or safely, those are big stumbling blocks IMHO. I know when I was at the stage where I knew nothing about horses (or how to read/handle them) I wouldn't have wanted to be left effectively in charge of a stable.

For all intents and purposes, that's what the OP is going to be left with here.
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