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    07-03-2012, 02:24 PM
  #21
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Originally Posted by Silent one    
They don't live very far from me and I won't leave them on their own. I'll be right here.

On a good note, they called last night and seemed to be ok, they said they are not mad and they understand. So hopefully all of this will end well. I was pretty worried yesterday, both about the situation and about losing a friendship. Thanks everyone for your support!
Maybe they were upset that one of there horses caused that damage to another horse. I know I would be. I think I would have wanted to come get my horses so they didn't cause anymore damage after the first time. I am glad your getting it all worked out
     
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    07-06-2012, 03:57 PM
  #22
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Have they made any progress on their fencing in the 6 months they had your horses at your place? If not, I wouldnt feel bad. You have every right to say that you need them to get their fencing up asap.

(as a side note, no matter how close a friend was to me, I would never keep my horses at their place and not pay anything).
     
    07-06-2012, 04:32 PM
  #23
Trained
If you are paying to lease property, and they are keeping their horses on it, it sounds like they are taking advantage of you. Maybe they haven't thought it through. I would have a heart to heart discussion. Putting 9 horses on 5 acres is asking for injuries. When they argue, they have nowhere to escape.
     
    07-06-2012, 11:07 PM
  #24
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Celeste    
If you are paying to lease property, and they are keeping their horses on it, it sounds like they are taking advantage of you. Maybe they haven't thought it through. I would have a heart to heart discussion. Putting 9 horses on 5 acres is asking for injuries. When they argue, they have nowhere to escape.
The nine horses on 5 acres was the result of loose horses, not the norm. I must have stated that poorly. All but two of the horses normally were on the 48 acres, not the 5 acres. My husband just put them there when they got loose and that's what caused the first incident.

And no, since they have been here they have not made any progress on their fencing!

I have asked them to move their horses but they keep telling me they can't find a place. So for right now I have used all of my round pen panels and one side of the small barn to build a corral and they are in there. They have shelter and a fan and a large corral but I have told my friends their time is VERY limited. If they are not moved within two weeks I guess I will have my attorney send them a letter...... Hate to do that but this is going nowhere, and now I have to feed their horses twice a day because they aren't here to do it usually. At least they are buying feed and are getting hay tomorrow.

So I'm a little frustrated right now. Love my friends but they just don't seem to want to take this too seriously.
     
    07-07-2012, 10:07 AM
  #25
Showing
You are being played the fool. It doesn't take 9 months to fence off a few acres. You are enabling them to shirk their responsibilities. As for salvaging the friendship, it was done for a long time ago, you just didn't see that. A true friend wouldn't take advantage of a kindness. Give them a date for their horses to be gone, two weeks, no more. It's amazing the peace of mind you will have once they are gone. Don't buy into their stories and stop trying to help them. Your concerns should be with your own family and your horses.
     
    07-08-2012, 03:42 PM
  #26
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Saddlebag    
You are being played the fool. It doesn't take 9 months to fence off a few acres. You are enabling them to shirk their responsibilities. As for salvaging the friendship, it was done for a long time ago, you just didn't see that. A true friend wouldn't take advantage of a kindness. Give them a date for their horses to be gone, two weeks, no more. It's amazing the peace of mind you will have once they are gone. Don't buy into their stories and stop trying to help them. Your concerns should be with your own family and your horses.
It is likely you are right, even though they do help me from time to time it is not nearly enough to warrant complete boarding. So today I sent them a boarding agreement requiring monthly payment, which will take effect August 1, 2012. Or they have until then to move their horses. We shall see what happens.
     
    07-08-2012, 03:48 PM
  #27
Trained
Did you send it certified, return receipt? If not, follow up and send it that way. That way you have proof they've been notified of your intent to charge board if they don't move. Then if they don't pay, you have legal grounds all covered for when you have to file a lien and go to court.

From now on, nothing over the phone or in e-mail, write it out and send it certifed, return receipt.
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    07-08-2012, 03:49 PM
  #28
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Dreamcatcher Arabians    
Did you send it certified, return receipt? If not, follow up and send it that way. That way you have proof they've been notified of your intent to charge board if they don't move. Then if they don't pay, you have legal grounds all covered for when you have to file a lien and go to court.

From now on, nothing over the phone or in e-mail, write it out and send it certifed, return receipt.
Good idea, Dreamcatcher, I will do that!
     
    07-08-2012, 03:55 PM
  #29
Trained
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Originally Posted by Silent one    
Good idea, Dreamcatcher, I will do that!
It sounds to me like these folks aren't taking you seriously, so by doing that you're hopefully going to show them that you really do mean business.

The added benefit is that by doing that and making sure they know that if they don't remove the horses and don't pay, you're willing to go as far as you need to, to get rid of them and their horses, they may step up.

Otherwise, you file a lien according to your state/county/city's ordinances, take them to small claims court for non-payment and if they don't show up, or even if they do, frequently the judge will award custody of the horses to you. In most states, you have to sell the horses as public auction for the amount of the arrears and anything left over goes back to the horse owner. PUBLIC AUCTION doesn't mean the kill sale, you can hire an auctioneer and do it from your property but you have to be sure to follow the legal guidelines to publicize the sale. Or you can take them to the local sale barn which is what I would do and the chips will fall where they fall.

Good luck, these folks have realllllllly taken some serious advantage of you and the friendship.
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    07-08-2012, 04:12 PM
  #30
Yearling
I think it's kind of funny how everyone keeps saying 9 horses on 5 acres is an accident waiting to happen. Not because it's not true, just because we have 9 horses on 1 acre and have only seen 2 injuries in 5 years due to horses getting kicked, or anything else for that matter. Maybe we're just lucky.

It's a shame this happened, but it sounds like they are taking responsibility, so that's good. My horse got kicked and it cut open her back leg. Took at least 2 weeks of doctoring. When my horse did the same thing to another horse, I took it upon myself to buy supplies needed and doctor it whenever I was there.
     

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