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    03-23-2013, 02:18 PM
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    03-27-2013, 04:28 AM
Originally Posted by speidel    
A) sad that I get to see more horses out my window in apalling conditions
B) I am the one taking all the heat, and all I did was agree and pass on her word
C) we need resources not just to make everything look good. NOTHING is getting done with the horses that need vet help exceped getting moved under my window.
D) I have to wach what happens over there untill they get closed down -yes I live in utah. So as untill someone can prove a horse is killed because of living conditions or on verg of death they get to stay put.
A) One level of abuse does not justify another. Oh I won't feed my child as there are plenty of starving children in Africa.

B) The person complaining took photos. If they are your horses, then that is why you are involved in this.

C) If you need resources and your board costs $60 a month, then maybe you shouldn't have a horse. It's not the horses fault you cannot provide for it.

D) Horses do not usually need to die before the authorities step in. Sometimes it works that way, but not always.
    03-27-2013, 10:57 AM
The way I'm reading this, you were okay with the way some horses were being neglected as long as they weren't visible out your window? It sounds like things are going to improve for the horses that are staying, unfortunately for the horses that are being moved rather than being upgraded you cannot force people to care. You say the place didn't need a facelift, you need "resources". I'm not sure what that means, it SOUNDS like you are looking for some sort of "horsey welfare". Horses are a luxury, not a necessity. If I was having to choose between my kids playing sports or owning a horse, I think the horse would be gone. I know people have mentioned that you shouldn't have a horse if you don't have an emergency fund for vet expenses.....what about your kids' medical expenses? JMO.
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    03-27-2013, 11:09 AM
Bella, there are programs available for children to get medical care, so it's not really comparable with a horse needing a vet.

Properly taking care of one's horses is supposed to be part and parcel of owning them. If someone can't afford or simply doesn't want to spend the money to feed them properly and make sure they have regular farrier and vet visits, then the horses need to go. Period.

As has already been stated more than once, horses are a luxury. If people can't/won't properly care for that luxury, then it's time to rethink horse ownership.

We as their owners owe it to them to give them the best life possible. If we can't, then maybe we shouldn't be such selfish gits and make them live in a hellhole of our own making.
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    03-27-2013, 11:45 AM
Speed, I know there are programs for kids. My assumption was that the OP is NOT utilizing government assistance if she has a luxury item like a horse. I, for one, would be pretty ticked about my tax dollars paying for medical care for someone's children so they could have horses! I have no doubt it happens, my hospital takes Medicaid & I see welfare moms on a daily basis with acrylic nails, iPhones, and nicer cars than I drive.....why not horses?
    03-27-2013, 11:49 AM
I wouldn't assume that, unfortunately. There are quite a few deadbeats who think they're entitled to whatever they want, even though they're using working taxpayers' money to fund their lifestyles. But that's a topic for another thread.
    04-02-2013, 02:23 AM
Originally Posted by speidel    
We all know of the stabbles were the horses are spotless stalls don't have an oz of dirt in them everything runs like clockwork... Get real most working stables will have its issues. In navada the wendover stables are rented out as a service. They rent out the space, your horse is YOUR problem. Want it watered? Groomed? Feed? You have to do it. YOu want its stall clean, you clean it. It is a self service. Want your horse to have a vet visit? Haul it in to the vet. (the one that comes is out 2x a year)
But because A young lady didnt like it, she complaned and complaned. There were ppl hear who did there best, so the shelters were less then good on some they were built good and horses safe but not on all. But then agin I have seen horses get hurt in a completly empty stall, and other hrses in junkyards never get a scrach. But because of her complaning the "city is taking action. They have cut almost all of the local kids sports. Parents now have to fund them and if there isnt funding then they are giving refunds and the kids wont play this year. Dosnt seam right for the kids and parents that don't have horses. The city has raised rent and now if you want a shelter you have to sign a year leasse and RENT IT with the space. (i don't know if I will be hear a year) because of this a lot of ppl are moving there horses to the utah side stabbles that are privetly owned. I can see it from my bedroom window. The pens are being built with scrap wood, pallets both wood and plastic and ithe round pen has been put up with barbwire. And they have had ther first loss of life. I woke to gunshot and looked out to see ppl standing around a horse on the ground. I don't know why or what happend but everyone I have talked to on the navada side is planning on moving to the utah side. I can only hope that the girl who complaned and brought added misery will take time to walk over to the utah stabbles and see what she has made so many ppl do. Why are they moving there horses? They are unwilling to give them up but truthfully can't affored them eather. Right no but it is there horses and they will do as they wish. I will also note, that a cop who keeped his horses nexed to the girl has addmitted he has had to close her gate, lock her tack room up because she forgot to. He thinks she invited most of the truble then when she becan complaning her horse became a target. Saddly after she sold her horse I made the mistake of letting her ride one of mine. That horse is dead and days later my other horse had her face so swollen a halter wouldnt fit on her nose. When I asked girl to stop working with them all problems stoped. This is a rant because right now my horse is in a tiny pen because we have to pull abart her shelter and nails and other stuff is in her normal pen and I was informed that there has been a compant filed because she is in a smaller pen, and no more shelter.

Speidel, you need to stop this right now. This is the fourth thread you started about me and I am getting sick of it. I contacted the humane society because of the two horses that starved to death (yours included), the horrible conditions that endangered all of the horses, the police and and the barn manager's refusal to fix things.

You people can go look at the other threads, where our arguments have taken place, but I did not hurt her horses. I was helping her until she decided that her horse looks better skinny. It is not my fault that the city changed the setup of the stables. I have talked to them. It is because very few people actually pay their rent, and their choices were to raise the rent, or shut the whole thing down. The only thing my complaints with Humane Society accomplished was for the barn managers to check on the horses condition more often. Mission accomplished, I am happy.

As for the police officer taking care of what I forgot; I did not forget to do that stuff. The majority of the people at the stables are shady. I had three locks cut, and my horse was regularly broken out of his pen. His hay was stolen from his dish, and I had $1500 worth of stuff stolen from me. I sold him to a safer home because the small town cops refused to help. I contacted the Humane Society AFTER I sold my horse, so none of those actions were because of retaliation.

Her horse died of starvation, which was discussed in our other threads (Starving a horse for personal gain?) and the other had a swollen face because of a cribbing problem. I didnothing to her horses but help, until she decided she didn't want my help. She is mad at the increased rent and looking for the first person to blame. Again they explained that the reason for the rent increase was not because of me (think about it, raised rent is only going to take away from the hay budget, making the problems worse - the raised rent was to drive out the people who can't afford it, and to improve conditions for those who can).
    04-02-2013, 02:37 AM
Originally Posted by busysmurf    
So you're pissed because you have to make a decent shelter for your horse and aren't??

I'm all for giving someone the benefit of the doubt, but going off of some previous posts where your actions where questionable you SHOULD NOT own a horse, or have anything to do with them!!! From what I can understand from your above post, you come across as someone who cannot afford a horse by any stretch of the imagination, feels entitled to have one, and is the type of person that keeps rescue facilties to capacity.

I PRAY THAT I'M WRONG!!!!! And that your post/vent got lost in translation.
THANK YOU! Hell, I was the one who told her her horse looked sick. I was the one who layed down with her when she was too week to stand back up. If it wasn't for me, it would have been a few days before she came back to see her dead horse. Believe me, I loved that horse, I was equally upset at her death.
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    04-02-2013, 02:53 AM
Jalter report the thread. She isn't suppose to be putting up more threads about this.
This one is older so I don't think it will be taken down,
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    04-02-2013, 03:08 AM
Just so everyone knows speidel and jalter have threads on health and nutrition section.

They have several bash each other threads going two of which are closed by a moderator. Hmmm wonder why? They both need to get a life.if you can't take care of your horse find it a better home.

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