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post #11 of 19 Old 12-29-2011, 11:49 AM Thread Starter
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More Info: The barn was good when I came 6 horses on 12 acres but then in 60 days they added 9 more horses now totaling 15. The barn manager then fenced off a portion of pasture thus decreasing while increasing horses. Yes my horse is wormed, dental up to date, and is given grain "Triple Crown Complete" 1 3/4 scoop twice daily. I never see my big guy at the round bale anymore. Too many horses!
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post #12 of 19 Old 12-29-2011, 12:18 PM
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I think you should either move or put up a hay bag. You can supply your own hay and with the hay bag there will be less wastage.

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post #13 of 19 Old 12-29-2011, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Lost without horses View Post
More Info: The barn was good when I came 6 horses on 12 acres but then in 60 days they added 9 more horses now totaling 15. The barn manager then fenced off a portion of pasture thus decreasing while increasing horses. Yes my horse is wormed, dental up to date, and is given grain "Triple Crown Complete" 1 3/4 scoop twice daily. I never see my big guy at the round bale anymore. Too many horses!
Your original post said two days - now it's 60 days?
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post #14 of 19 Old 12-29-2011, 01:26 PM
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First of all it isnt relevant if anyone things a round bale is enough or not. It is your horse, what does your contract say ? Does it say you CANT give more hay ?If I wanted to feed my horse an extra bale of hay a day I would., Its my horse I'll give it what I want.
SOunds like you are in a crappy place anyway. I see TN in your profile. Weather has been good. No excuse for a pasture of mud. Should still be grass out there. There are simply too many horses there.
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post #15 of 19 Old 12-29-2011, 08:19 PM
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Yeah, that's too many horses for that space. Way too much competition for that bale. Move...and make your food concerns very clear to the places you consider next. Get it all in writing.
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post #16 of 19 Old 12-30-2011, 07:35 AM
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I can see where the barn owner is coming from You want your horse to have more hay and it is strewing it all over its stall and pooing and peeing all over it and than she has to go in and pick all that wasted hay out. If you as a boarder want anything above and beyond what they are providing expect to pay for it and or provide it. I'd suggest a hay net so there is no mess in the stall for whatever your horse doesnt want. nutrition wise. If your horse is at a round bale all day and has three flakes at night that is more than adequate. Especially if they are getting grain in addition. If you are not happy there and you cannot come to a compromise.... move
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post #17 of 19 Old 12-30-2011, 10:27 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks everyone for your input. I'm going to continue to supply my own additional hay and move. My farm will be complete and ready in 45 days. Can't wait to have my horses at home with me!
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post #18 of 19 Old 12-31-2011, 04:35 PM
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Devil's advocate here too, I've been on the opposing end of the discussion. Leftover hay when you're mucking several stalls a day is a real pain in the butt - it's more difficult to remove than urine or manure and even worse if the horse moves around a lot in the stalls and makes a big mess. It may not seem like a big deal to you but barn staff want to be as efficient as possible; this includes taking the time to clean the stall properly and save as much unsoiled bedding as possible instead of stripping it, as well as minimizing leftover hay - you don't want the horse going without hay, but you don't want to overfeed and have tons of leftovers, that's a lot of wasted hay, as well as wasted time. Usually barn staff are paid per stall, and every minute counts for them. If they're paid hourly, then every minute counts for the barn manager and they're still feeling the heat. It's a hard, thankless job, and you get WAY more with sugar with them. Shrugging their challenges off, as small as they may seem to you, will only be met with resistance. While Joe4d might be right about the contract, that's a real good way to tick off otherwise good staff - don't expect any favours from them if that's the stance you want to take.

There are ways to work with them, like monitoring how much hay he is leaving behind and adjusting the amount you give accordingly (hay net helps too if it's easy for them to install), offering to pick out the stall to make up for the leftover hay (some barns will go for this, others won't, many barns are very protective of their equipment, and often boarders would come in, muck their stall, and dump a massive load of bedding in for us to chisel out the next morning). I'm hoping that filling the extra water bucket you put in whenever you're there is a given. Keep the staff happy and they'll be more inclined to keep you happy and put in the extra effort.

In your case there very well could be a management issue, the dropping weight is a concern but he's also not finishing what you're giving him. I have to giggle at the thought of 15 horses on 12 acres being too many though, try 70 Of course, that's a city barn that warrants individual paddocks, feeding, and a LOT of exercise, no round bales. It can be done with good management though. Full boarding just isn't for everyone, glad to see you'll have yours at home soon enough
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post #19 of 19 Old 12-31-2011, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by MyBoyPuck View Post
Unless your horse is low in the pecking order and cannot get to that round bale, I'm not sure what is wrong here. If the horse has free choice hay all day long and gets an additional 3 flakes once he's back in his stall, that should be more than enough forage for a healthy horse. If he's leaving hay in his stall, maybe he's getting enough from the round bale alone? Just playing devil's advocate here.
Agreed. They are gioving your horse plenty. If weight is an issue maybe grain is needed
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