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        09-20-2012, 04:06 PM
      #11
    Showing
    Hay prices in Alberta are very reasonable. $4-6 for a square bale, $50 for a round bale in my area. No, I truly have no clue the conditions in the drought-stricken areas, my heart goes out to everyone affected.
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        09-20-2012, 04:11 PM
      #12
    Showing
    JDI, I just got 50 square bales of mixed grass hay for $3.00 a bale. These bales weigh anywhere from 40-65 pounds, and I'm going to need another 100-150 bales to get me through the winter and into spring.

    My hay has been running me $3.00-$3.50 a square bale, but I can't find round bales for love nor money, as the beef cattle farmers have snagged all of those.

    I fully expect to pay more for hay once the weather gets really cold, which is why I'm trying like heck to get as much hay as I can right now.

    I also just bought 6 slow feeder hay nets, because I simply can't afford for the horses to waste any hay.
         
        09-20-2012, 04:17 PM
      #13
    Yearling
    Speed Racer, I don't know where she is from. Normaly we only get 2 cuts off the field. And yes cubes went up $10 a tote. There are other ways to get horses thier nutrition than paying $10 a bale. You would go broke. No wonder people have all these starving horses. Because people don't do the research.
    Im not saying don't raise the prices, if people with pay it then that's great. But you can save costs if you want to, to help yourself out.
         
        09-20-2012, 04:31 PM
      #14
    Yearling
    What do you all pay for dewormers?
    And speed racer what did you pay for your slow feed bags ? I found some great places I purched these items ( order from the states )
         
        09-20-2012, 04:36 PM
      #15
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by Spotted    
    Speed Racer, I don't know where she is from. Normaly we only get 2 cuts off the field. And yes cubes went up $10 a tote. There are other ways to get horses thier nutrition than paying $10 a bale. You would go broke. No wonder people have all these starving horses. Because people don't do the research.
    Im not saying don't raise the prices, if people with pay it then that's great. But you can save costs if you want to, to help yourself out.
    And you honestly think that she hasn't tried these other routes?? I'll tell you a secret - cubes are made from hay too, so when there's a hay shortage, guess what else there's less of?
    I don't know if you were around to remember the drought over 10 years ago but I was in Provost at the time for work (gahhh what a h-hole) and hay was so **** scarce places were feeding their horses crested wheat (at like $12 a bale too). My horses thought it was bedding the stuff was so awful. Alberta's been in a bad drought too so lets not get all high and mighty about who should be doing what to reduce costs. At least she hasn't opened her gates up to let the horses find grass elsewhere. $25-50 per month is relatively little per person, IMO.

    I would have no qualms with a board increase, and in fact was expecting one this year, but then the weather fairy ended up being way kinder to us then she had been earlier in the year. So we do have hay, just way stemmier than I like it, and our second cut is basically straight alfalfa (but I think the BOs are trying to pawn that stuff off onto someone else haha).
    I pay $350/mo for outdoor board and I think we ended up at $6/bale this year - horses get 4 feedings per day. $400/mo covers once a day supplements too. I know places on pasture board for $450/mo so I'm not complaining about board prices at my barn!!!
         
        09-20-2012, 04:43 PM
      #16
    Showing
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    Originally Posted by Spotted    
    Speed Racer, I don't know where she is from. Normaly we only get 2 cuts off the field. And yes cubes went up $10 a tote. There are other ways to get horses thier nutrition than paying $10 a bale. You would go broke. No wonder people have all these starving horses. Because people don't do the research.
    Im not saying don't raise the prices, if people with pay it then that's great. But you can save costs if you want to, to help yourself out.
    I'm sooo glad you have the economic crisis in the US figured out for us.

    Yes, it's obviously JUST because people don't know how to budget their funds that horses are starving. Never mind that unemployment rates are at record highs, the drought in the southwest has caused hay and other food crops to be nonexistent in some places, and the cost of everything is skyrocketing.

    Sure, just drive 3,000 miles to another state that has hay and get it there! Problem solved!

    I don't know how old you are, but you certainly seem to have a marked lack of understanding about economy, agriculture, and how everything is all tied together. I for one am HIGHLY insulted that you think nobody other than yourself has the intelligence to research or budget their funds for maximum efficiency.
         
        09-20-2012, 04:46 PM
      #17
    Yearling
    Anabel you don't have to get all cranky about it, I was just trying to give some suggestions. And yes I was around for the drought. And we purchased our hay from elswhere. Sometimes the trip pays off.
    So your the getting all high and mighty
         
        09-20-2012, 04:49 PM
      #18
    Banned
    Just as a simple example, we own farm land ~ 200 miles away, and a family member cuts hay on it. In theory, we own 40% of the hay cut on our portion of the land.

    Every single year when I get ready to buy hay for the winter, we sit down and cost it out. Every year, it's been cheaper to buy hay locally than it would be to take a truck and flat bed ~200 miles and pick up FREE hay. That was true when diesel was $3./gallon, even more true now when it's $4./gallon. We've also never factored our time into the equation, as we'd make a family visit out of the trip.

    A barn owner would have to factor in the cost of their time to travel to pick up the hay, it's time they're not feeding, mucking, mowing, dragging the arena, etc.

    So I am really intrigued by this magical idea you can somehow avoid high hay prices by driving out of the area. Even if square bales were $10 locally and $4 4 hours a way, time and fuel costs make it a wash.

    I'd also like to point out that a lot of options for alternate forage that work for a 1 - 3 horse home operation (slow feed nets, soaking hay cubes, etc.) may not feasible for a large commercial barn.
         
        09-20-2012, 04:49 PM
      #19
    Yearling
    Speed racer, So if jobs are hard to find then wouldn't people want to save costs????????
         
        09-20-2012, 04:53 PM
      #20
    Banned
    Whoa, whoa, whoa!

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    I would go else where to find your hay. That's a crazy price. Your better off to take a trailer out of your area to get hay. Im paying $50.oo for 1300 lbs most hay around is going cheaper, but this is right across the road from us. I also use slow feeders so they can't pig out. The hay lasts much longer and they still get the required amount. Paying 10 for a square is mental. Also maybe cubes is a better option. I get 700kg for $180.00 but you know exactly how much they are getting and its excellent quality. Maybe a road trip would be a benifit. I don't think it costs any where near $300.00 to feed a horse for a month.
    You post this, calling the OP "mental" and then you call *anabel* cranky??????

    Go back and read what YOU posted before criticizing others.

    It can very easily cost more than $300/month to feed a horse, I can't imagine what your experience is if you don't think that's possible?
         

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