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    04-16-2013, 01:28 PM
Green Broke
Like the others, I would not breed to that stallion. He seems to throw that atrocious hind end to every foal pictured. Being goose rumped and camped under like that, the resulting baby would NOT hold up to extensive trail riding, which is what you're looking to do. I would find a stud with good, solid legs that can carry someone for miles. Your mare is adorable, by the way. I love her name.
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    04-16-2013, 01:30 PM
I think she would cross up amazingly with a TB stud, have you considered that? It would lighten the foal up without the chunk and shortness that QH/Draft seem to end up with. I've seen several draft/TB crosses who were pretty incredible.
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    04-16-2013, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by busysmurf    
OP, your mare is very cute. And while I can completely agree your plan to breed her & keep the baby for yourselves is a valid reason (sorry faye, but something could happen to any of us at any time, does that mean none of us should get a horse? But I completely, 100% agree with the poor excuse of breeding a mare just to breed a mare).
No it doesnt mean that non of us should get a horse, it means that any horse that you have responsibility for you have duty of care to ensure that should anything happen to you the horses future is as assured as possible. That goes doubly so if you are going to bring a new horse into the world.

For my old lads that means that should anything happen to me my will states that they are to be PTS in the field at home and burried there. For my young lad he is now reschooled into a useful member of equine society and has the conformation to be useful at anything you care to try him at, he will never be a novice ride but he is talented enough that a pro would snap him up in an instant!

OP whilst your mare is ok the stallion is a conformational trainwreck and i'm suprised he is still sound.

How about something like winchester D?

Or Incandesent
Incandescent Flame - Stud Card. Stallions Online. Stallions at stud.

Or Greenvale audacity
Greenvale Audacity - Stud Card. Stallions Online. Stallions at stud.

Or something like these gorgeous boys
SPRINGHILL`S BALLY SENSATION - Stud Card. Stallions Online. Stallions at stud.
CASSIUS - Stud Card. Stallions Online. Stallions at stud.

There are litteraly hundreds of beautifuly conformed stallions with smaller stud fees than your original one a lot of them are coloured as well!

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    04-16-2013, 02:23 PM
Oh! Greenvale Audacity is one handsome fellow!
    04-16-2013, 05:17 PM
Holy, Incandescent is 15.hh even! What a beautiful horse
    04-16-2013, 05:32 PM
Give me some Incandescent here, LOVE him
    04-16-2013, 05:45 PM
I love my quarters and would never give them up. But I will admit to drooling over Winchester D a bit. Cassius is a nice looking little guy too. What is a native horse?
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    04-16-2013, 09:21 PM
I must say I think she could cross beautifully with a good TB stallion.
May I ask OP, what it is you don't like about the breed?

If it is their tendency to be flighty, I must say I think you have the wrong ideas and experiences of them. Perhaps look at some of the sporthorse bred TBs
    04-16-2013, 09:39 PM
OP, I looked at the stallion's pedigree that you want to breed to. Commonly paints and even quarter horses have a bit of thoroughbred breeding in their lines. I found something you would definitely want to check out before ever considering breeding to him. He has the quarter horse stallion Impressive in his pedigree, so you better find out if this stallion you like so much carries HYPP. If he carries it, he may or may not show signs of the genetic disease but could pass it on to foals and they could be ticking time bombs for seizures and a short life.
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    04-16-2013, 09:58 PM
I've been debating whether to join in here or not, because I don't want to make you feel hurt or pressured, OP... But in the end, I'm not really seeing much to like about that stallion either. What would worry me is if the foal got his dam's bulk and, say, his dad's legs... with the conformation faults of the stallion, I'd be worried that the foal might have issues with the bulk that your mare seems to put on her foals. She's lovely, but a big, big mare, who looks to pass that on, and that means that conformation is doubly important. Especially when crossing with a quarter horse.
I really, really, REALLY like your mare, and I feel like you could find a better stallion for her. She is such a lovely, compact, sturdy looking horse, I think she could produce a fantastic foal that is lighter like you want but also very high quality... I guess, basically, what I'm trying to say is that I think that the stallion is just not up to par with her.
Of course, this is all just my opinion. Don't feel like I'm attacking you or forcing my thoughts onto you, in the end, it's your mare and your choice. But I honestly think that you could find another, better stallion for such a lovely mare who has just as nice a personality/ temperament and much better conformation... Even if the foal is just your trail horse and companion for the rest of its life, why not aim for as much quality as possible?
I don't want to sound rude with my opinion. These are just my thoughts, and I hope you don't mind my sharing them.
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