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post #41 of 46 Old 04-16-2013, 10:18 PM
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yikes, Sunny!
OP - please read into the disease before making your decision

Either way, I think you have a very cool mare and I hope you make a great decision on who to breed her to
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post #42 of 46 Old 04-17-2013, 02:27 AM
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My only question is since this mare is so well bred and from a rare breed, correct me if I am wrong, shouldnt she be used to produce pure breds?
OP she is your mare you decide who to breed her to.
What you do with the foal is your business so I wish you the best of luck.
If you are comfortable with the cross then breed her to the stallion. Shalom
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post #43 of 46 Old 04-17-2013, 03:11 AM
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OP, your mare is absolutely stunning! If I were in your shoes I would look into breeding for a purebred baby, I think it would HUGELY increase your chances of being able to sell the foal should you be unable to keep it (you cannot be one hundred percent certain that you will), not to mention the breed itself is just absolutely beautiful. I'm a bit in awe.
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post #44 of 46 Old 04-17-2013, 03:58 PM
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The stallion is definitely nothing special and not something I would be interested in. He is not going to complement your mare either. They both have weak backends. His underpinnings are weak and they must be the strongest part of a draft. I agree that given the limited genetics out there of Ardennais, she is more valuable raising purebred foals than any crossbred. A purebred however does not meet your needs as far as a riding mount. A cross on a TB or arab is not going to diminish the amount of bone substantially and is going to look more like a refined Ardennais than anything else. Remember that the Percheron got their fine heads and beautiful necks from the Arab. The stallion you look for this mare needs to have a great hip and neck. I know you don't ride a neck but it is important in how they carry themselves and where their center of balance is. It has a huge impact on the quality of your ride.

Violet is a pretty nice cross. She has better confirmation for a rider but still maintains the look of the Ardennais. She has enough bone and foot underneath her to support her size. How was her sire built? I'd want another one of her first.
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post #45 of 46 Old 04-17-2013, 03:59 PM
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In the nicest way possible, your mare is too nice to insult with such a mediocre stallion. I understand temperament is important, but based on the few links posted alone, I think you could easily find something nicer with just as good of a temperament if you look a little harder. As the owner of an Arab mare who deals with chronic tendon problems due to her poorly built hooves and angles, temperament will mean nothing if the foal can't hold up for even basic riding.

I know breeding is a crapshoot, but this stallion consistently passes on his faults and weaknesses so why chance it? Give the foal a fighting chance by breeding your beautiful quality mare to a stallion more deserving of sharing herunique genetics!
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Emmasacha, I hope you have taken everything told you here, in the spirit in which it was meant. I'm sure you have evaluated your mare carefully, as to her strong and weak points. The stallion you have chosen is definitely not the correct stallion for her. You will be doubling up on some conformation problems. This, plus it is obvious that he passes along his weak points.

Faye has given you some excellent stallions to consider. If none of those appeal to you, there are plenty more in the UK. I really think you should rethink your choice. Hopefully, you have not yet booked to the stallion you showed.

If it were me, I'd consider breeding your mare to another of her breed, but I do understand your wishing for something a little more refined. So with that in mind, please do consider a more appropriate stud for your girl. I think you'll be glad you did in the end.

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