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    01-28-2009, 08:23 AM
  #21
Green Broke
Being 19 and having medicial problems (heaves) I would not bred her.

Also the ten yr old maiden mare, I agree with county. The only thing
I would watch for is to make sure she is a good mother and didn't reject
Or try to hurt the foal.
     
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    02-02-2009, 02:10 AM
  #22
Trained
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Originally Posted by county    
anebel could you post some research to back up your claims? I've found no problems with breeding maiden mares at 10 years of age and have read no research that indicates in any way a higher rate of problems then any other age. I've bred 100's of mares and worked with many reproduction vets and not 1 feels theres a higher incident of problems with older or maiden mares foaling.
Breeding the Old Maiden Mare
Or just google it yourself. There are a lot of problems including entrometritis, nutrition getting to the foal and the mare, keeping weight on the mare, caring for the mare's legs/joints, the mare being strong enough to make it through foaling, rejection, milk production, etc. In an older mare that has been bred before 10, these are not normally problems because the mare has already been through it all, younger, healthier and stronger. Also, if there are any complications the breeder will already know because she has been bred before and they know what to watch for in the mare and avoid going through the same things with an older mare. Also with a mare of this age (19/10) there is no indication whether or not her legs and conformation will hold up to pregnancy or birth.

I am not in the business of breeding, but I have attempted to breed a mare before (with the aid of one of the region's top vets) and am good friends with a very prominent breeder in the area. Breeding a good horse is not as easy as many people think, especially when you have one mare, and want one foal that is as close to perfect as possible. When running a large operation, if you breed 40 mares a year, you only expect 20 to be of good quality. If you are running a smaller operation or breeding only one mare, you have to increase those odds dramatically or else you are losing a lot of money very quickly. I am not disagreeing with you, only arguing that there is a large difference in running a breeding operation, and breeding one mare, once, for the first time.
     
    02-02-2009, 03:23 PM
  #23
Started
As long as the vet checks the mare out as ok, I'd say it should be fine. Most vets out here say it's fine to breed a maiden mare unil they're 15... If the mare has been bred before, the vets out here say they can be bred safely until they're roughly 23... but in the end, you'd want a vet check because not all mares are the same.
     
    02-05-2009, 01:00 PM
  #24
Foal
I understand why you want to breed from your mare. I also bred from my older, maiden Thoroughbred mare because I loved her so much and wanted a foal from her.

Like yours, she was in great health and 19 years old. I made sure to use a well-respected vet and used AI. I had never bred before, and had a lot of people telling me that everything would go wrong, but I refused to panic.

I rode her for the first few months before giving her the rest of the time off.

I did everything I was told by the vet, and she had a healthy colt over night. The only issues came after the birth when she had trouble accepting ber baby. But I worked through those too, and within a week she was in love with him.

My mare has since passed away, at age 26, and I miss her every day. If it hadn't been for her son, I would have given up riding. As it is, he and I are now successfully winning First Level dressage together. I love him to bits and we have a very strong bond.

I'm not saying the others are wrong to suggest buying a foal. I think it is cheaper in the long run. But the satisfaction of breeding and training your own horse is unbelievable and not to be left out of the equation.

Good luck with your decision.
     
    02-17-2009, 01:37 PM
  #25
Foal
The safest years for a mare to foal is between 5 and 8 or so, when a mare is that age there can always be complications. Also there is not a 100% chance of the foal being born alive either. But, it does depend on the mare, if she has not had a foal before then I wouldn't.
     
    02-17-2009, 02:10 PM
  #26
mls
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Originally Posted by ~*~anebel~*~    
Breeding a maiden mare after about 10 years old basically guarantees problems. You will be very lucky if you can a) get the horse pregnant and maintain the pregnancy and b) if at the end of it all you end up with even 1 horse, let alone a healthy one.
It is extremely irresponsible first of all to breed an older maiden mare and second of all to breed one not of breeding quality.
By breeding this mare you are endangering her and her potential foal AND you are contributing to horse slaughter by creating another grade X unregistered mare that is worth $50. I hope for everyone's sake that the mare won't get pregnant.
Seriously? We rarely breed a mare BEFORE she turns 10. They need to earn the right to reproduce.

How do you know the quality of the mare?
     
    02-17-2009, 02:28 PM
  #27
Weanling
I've heard that if a mare doesn't have a foal by age 10, it gets more difficult and potentially dangerous for her later in life. For your girl's safety, I wouldn't do it.
     
    02-17-2009, 04:12 PM
  #28
Foal
I longed to breed with my mare but at 19 and a maiden, thought she was too old. I contacted a breeder friend who said as long as the mare was in good health and would be looked after properly, there was no reason why I could not breed from her. She had mares well into their 20's that she still bred with. My mare caught on the first visit to the stallion and carried to full term, delivering a then, healthy filly foal. Sadly the filly died at 2 months old and apart from grieving for her baby, my mare was absolutely fine. There are always risks with breeding even with younger horses and yes, I suppose those risks are greater when the horse is older, therefore its a personal choice. Good luck with what you do!
     
    02-17-2009, 04:51 PM
  #29
Foal
Yea I wouldn't breed her.
     
    02-18-2009, 09:42 AM
  #30
mls
Trained
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Originally Posted by centrestableswendy    
I've heard that if a mare doesn't have a foal by age 10, it gets more difficult and potentially dangerous for her later in life. For your girl's safety, I wouldn't do it.
And how many colts have you raised? We've been doing this for over 20 years. NEVER had an issue with the mare.
     

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