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    06-20-2009, 11:08 AM
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Alright... not sure if this has been brought up but when is the right age to use a stallion to actually do the deed of breeding?

I have been looking a lot online at ads like on craigslist or equine.com (no one on this forum)...etc and why are people using their stallions so young??? I have seen a handful of listings where the stud is 3 and they already have a crop of foals on the ground for 2009. That means the stud was 2 when he was breeding

At 2 a horse is still a baby- they are still maturing not only mentally but physically as well. Also they just havenít proved themselves at 2 to be that stable minded horse that they are usually advertised as; nor have they proved themselves performance wise. Another thing that bugs be with stallion adds is when they have their 5 year old kid sitting on them (usually with no helmet or no one supporting their kid)... while all animals are unpredictable, stallions have the tendency to be the worst for horses.

Anyways I really just needed to rant because those ads tick me off. I think if the stud is breeding worthy they shouldnít start the deed until they are 5-6 years (but only my thoughts).

So what are your thoughts?
     
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    06-20-2009, 11:29 AM
  #2
Banned
Two is way too young.

I was pestered by a mare owner to breed mine at age 3 and I refused because he had mot matured enough. I did breed that mare (his first) at age 5 and it was the right time then.

A male horse is a stallion at age 4 and that is fine to start at that age unless you have temperment, handling or maturity problems.
     
    06-20-2009, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Angel_Leaguer    
Alright... not sure if this has been brought up but when is the right age to use a stallion to actually do the deed of breeding?

I have been looking a lot online at ads like on craigslist or equine.com (no one on this forum)...etc and why are people using their stallions so young???
They are doing it because the horse is cute and the owner wants to make money. It doesn't make sense but people do many things that don't make sense.
     
    06-20-2009, 12:58 PM
  #4
Yearling
Old enough to have accomplished something.
     
    06-21-2009, 08:14 AM
  #5
Weanling
Old enough to have finished growing for sure. I don't like to use studs that haven't gone through at least saddle training - meaning they must be good on the trails, at least to consider them. I don't like the old pasture studs that never go anywhere or do anything but breed like crazy. I like them to be fully grown so that you can judge his conformation correctly, and trained so you know how his temprament is. Around here, it seems to be around 4 or 5.
     
    06-21-2009, 08:31 AM
  #6
Weanling
I agree with you all that putting a two or three year old "out to stud" to the public to make a buck on stud fees is a bad plan, and that proving him is important before making a breeding career for him. However, I know of responsible programs who had covered a few of their own select mares with a two-three year old prospect, and continued his training, and then had offspring to evaluate from proven mares along with evaluating the individual performance of the stallion himself. If his offspring are not up to snuff, he can be gelded and continue on as a perfromer, sans testicles.

Breeding a 2 or 3 year old colt is not like breeding a 2 or 3 year old filly-- his body does not have to cope with growing a baby for 11 months while he himself is also growing-- and correctly managed, breeding does not have to be damaging to his mental development.

The key is well thought out, well managed breeding with a purpose, rather than breeding willy nilly just because he has functional testicles.
     
    06-21-2009, 08:40 AM
  #7
Showing
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Originally Posted by shmurmer4    
Old enough to have accomplished something.
Totally agree.
     
    06-21-2009, 05:59 PM
  #8
Green Broke
Two is way too young, and I would also say 4 as a breeding age. But I have to disagree with letting kids ride stallions. I have met mares more temperamental than stallions I've met. Now I don't disagree but the kids should be wearing helmets on a two year old regardless of its sex.
     
    06-21-2009, 06:39 PM
  #9
Foal
I have bred my colt as a 2 yr old and I can say that I think it was the best thing I could have done for him. Flame suit on.

For one thing he is very large and teaching him to live cover is a part of his training - teaching him made sense to me. He learned on an experienced mare and he was very easy to handle. He handled it like a pro and now knows the job required. Physically he is definitely sexually mature.

He has learned a whole breeding routine - and knows what is what - knows when he is working and when he is going for a breeding. He totally knows the difference and has become a much better and mature horse since the breeding.

Secondly, I want to see what he throws and by the time he is 4 or 5 and we want to start marketing him he will already have some babies on the ground and in training so that the results can be seen.
     
    06-21-2009, 07:02 PM
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^^agrre with the reasons above^^

I don't agree with breeding young stallions just to make a profit, but I think it makes sense to breed a few mares when the stallion is young IF you plan on showing him. That way by the time he has proved himself in the show ring, mare owners can see the quality of the foals he produces
     

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