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    04-17-2010, 10:43 AM
Green Broke
I'd just like to know why they used the chains, lol. Whether for an emergency or not. I've never seen a birth like that.
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    04-17-2010, 12:31 PM
Originally Posted by CheyAut    
When you guys have concerns, the best thing to do is READ what the OWNERS post on their marestare message board. That is the only way you're going to get the full story.

You said something about the bag coming out, sounds like it may've been a red bag, it is CRUTIAL that that foal comes out, FAST, or it will suffocate. Sounds like they were trying, but foal was stuck, hense the chains. I sure hope they saved it's life, that is an emergency.

Do not pass judgement on others when you don't know what's going on. There is a reason I never announce my mares on marestare on this board (and another just like it). (I do know there's a link in my sig, but that's not even the current link anymore, and I have purposely not updated it to the real link... just keep forgetting to take out the old one).
Gee, sorry!
    04-17-2010, 12:48 PM
I never even knew such a thing as marestare existed till just now
Its a really interesting concept. I agree, I'm sure there are reasons why each procedure is being employed. I've watched and assisted on many births from human to cattle. I've pulled a few calves (with chains) and watched a cesarean on a cow. You don't just start pulling without a reason. I'm sure there was a good one in the subject videos.
    04-17-2010, 01:09 PM
Yeah, there might have been a good reason to pull like that...but it might also have been people overreacting and acting stupid. We just don't know. And in a birth that looked normal until the six people stepped in, like ShutUpJoe said, it's unsettling to watch. Poor mare is what I say. Good for the six people for acting quickly and getting that baby out, is what I would say if it WAS an emergency. I guess just by watching a black and white, grainy camera screen....we'll never know.
    04-17-2010, 01:53 PM
Green Broke
I know, I'd just like to understand their reasoning. It honestly did not look like anything was going wrong.
    04-18-2010, 06:02 AM
^ Did you look in the foaling alerts and updates section for a thread on this mare? By now it's probably moved to the 2010 nursery. I cannot get to marestare at work so I can't check. But I bet it's posted about in there. I'm not talking about the farm's message board (if they have one, although I would think it would be there as well) but the main foaling board.
    04-18-2010, 01:29 PM
I read through the thread on this mare in the 2010 Nursery area and yep, they had lots of trouble with the baby. The vet was there and they absolutely needed those chains and all the help from the people. I guess the baby was just big??? And the mare's contractions weren't strong enough to get that baby out. So, good job, people! And mare. LOL.

This is what the owner said:

"Normally when we are just assisting the mare we do not pull until they contract, however with this colt we had been waiting for the vet to arrive, so much time had been lost. He was also not budging and she was not push, so at that point we will do whatever we need to get the baby out. "

So all is good!
    04-20-2010, 03:39 PM
Glad that they did it the right way and the baby got out and mom is ok. I'm assuming the baby was fine then since earlier it was noted that it had perked up? And I also think that it is good for people to question what they see as that is how they learn. I believe Shutupjoe was just truly intrigued about what was going on and why. Plus as most of us, especially the marestare-ers, have seen, there are some novice breeders out there that have pulled and assisted too much and too quickly. I too have seen mares with prolapsed uteruses from over exuberant novice breeders and it's not a pretty sight. So please try to inform and educate not berate posters for questioning in the search for knowledge and forcing them to defend their opinions.

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