AQHA bloodlines

I think that the athletic ability of the horse is more certinatly established from the bloodlines, however not the personality.

There is a difference between personality temperament and ability to learn and how fast they learn and work ethic.

Good example. Great Pine horses. Very good reiners. However that line is known to be slow learners. You have to keep working with them on things. However once they get it they get it. It is like switching a light bulb on.

HJ86 lines have very good work ethics and are great not only for the open level/trainer but also can come back well for their non pro owners. They pick up things quickly and are very up horses.

Smart Chic O'Lena/Doc O'Lena are hard to keep honest in the show ring. You really need to know what you are doing to get them shown. Not a great line for a green or rookie reiner.

I can go on but I think you get the idea. Each of these things are part of the horses temperament and work ethic. If you did not understand these things you would have a hard time finding the right trainer for the horse or you would give up early on the horse b/c you might think the horse has no talent b/c it was taking so long for the horse to get the maneuver.

No, no I totally understand. And I get what you are saying and I do agree to a certain degree.

I just don't think because one horse bucks out of a Doc Olena stud they are all going to.

My reining mare is a quick learner but when she doesn't want to do something she is stubburn as hell, I've heard the exact opposite about her bloodlines.

Sorry a bit random, but whats your take on Shining Spark horses? Considering breeding my mare to a Shining Spark Son.

SS horse are nice. You have to watch them though as they tend to be on the larger side for working lines. They make very nice rope horses b/c of this and are better as reined cow horses vs straight reiners. Which I like as I do both NRHA and NRCHA. That line is also quite consistent in what it produces. They do not tent to be great horses but they are all nice. If you get what I am saying. Some line you either get great or you get crap. The SS line does not seem to be that way.

Thanks for this info, my mare is a bit on the bigger side (she is short, but heavy) the stallion I am interested in is Shiners Q Chex (A canadian stallion) is rather small.

What is your take on Sonny Dee Bar bloodlines? I have a mare and stud that go back to him. My horses have a lot of the foundation lines like Bert, Topnotch Sonny. I also have one mare that is a great granddaughter to Impressive. She is my gray mare that is going to foal out in Feb 2010. How do you feel about the Two Eyed Jack line. My gray mare goes back to him as well. I am curious though do you know how I can find out more info on Topnotch Sonny? I also have a horse that goes back to Poco Bueno as well.

Certainly an interesting thread, this one. I've got a QH yearling and his great grandsire is Noble Tradition who's sire is Impressive :) Here's his pedigree. I'm not too familiar with my boy's bloodlines because they're all from America. Sorry to hi-jack this thread, but what do you think of his bloodlines?
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I think to some extent horses get some of their sire and dam's temperament but their uprbringing also affects their personality.

I love Bert bred horses. I have a Bert mare now. As a rule they seem to have good minds, athletic, and good looks

*Doc bar - Good all around horses
*Hancock - Broncy, hard to train, bu, t your best friend if you get them trained, all arounders, excellent on cattle
*Quincy - slow maturing, but absolute excellent all-arounders, quick to learn (good and bad), good for roping
*Driftwood - Excellent all arounders, good for reining
*Poco bueno - very pretty if bred right, calm cool temperment, good all arounders, watch out for HERDA
*Two Eyed Jack - can be stubbon at times, good cattle horses
*Impressive - quick to learn, can be stubbon, very pretty if bred right, Watch out for HYPP
*Zippo - calm cool temperment, can be stubbon, generally easy to break
*Sonny Dee Bar - Very pretty if bred right, Excellent temperment, excellent all-arounders, good in reining, western riding, westen pleasure.
*High Brow Hickory - Needs lots of exercise or can be very hot to handle, excellent cattle, mainly cutting, short stature, quick, can be difficult to train
*Mr. San Peppy - Fast, good for cattle, lots of go, little difficult to train as the tend to be a little hot headed.
*Easy Jet - Excellent speed horse, can be hot headed
*Wimpy - Good cattle, Halter horse, good all arounder
*King - cattle, reining, cutting, easy to train, very willing, Good ranch horses, very cowy

I'm more in the paint market myself, but here's what I got:

El Gato Uno - Good for reining, some bad temperments. (Haha, I knew this horse and trust me, there was definately some tempermental issues)

Impressive - Like you said, HYPP.

Mr. Gun Smoke - Good on cows, I have a Gunsmoke colt and he just knew.