Since AQHA STILL has not sent me my pin number,grr,and I cannot access my account,I am hoping someone can look up some information on a couple horses for me..
Raven Hawk Hancock #3830982. And Rich Ricka Shay Doc #3636988.
Any info you can find would be awesome!
Also,your opinions on the bloodlines..
I have no experience with Hancock bred horses, they are an old line and supposed to be very good at ranch work. HOWEVER, I was just at a sale and the girl next to me and I were talking about the horses as they went through and she kept oohing and aahing over the Hancock horses looks. But she said, "I will never own one because they are terrible buckers.". That could be 4th hand info for all I know, but it's the only thing I've heard about them from someone other than a breeder.
Actually, though, I wonder if you got one as a baby and started with the ground work right away, so that by the time you're ready to swing a leg over, it would be the only thing you hadn't done, I wonder if they'd be so bad?
When it comes to QH's Hancocks are not exactly the best tempered horses. They are known to be 'bucky' but it also depends heavily on what else is in the bloodline and how you work with them. If they're being trained in an 'all at once' manner and haven't been brought up to the idea of riding progressively then yes they'll be particularly bucky compared to other bloodlines. On the flipside if you work with them progressive as they're developing the chances of buck will slim down - not saying it'll go away because they are prone to it - Hancock bred horses just happen to have a stronger more 'independent' temperament in general compared to the other major bloodlines out there and that's something that indicates the bloodline and how 'proven' a sire is if he can pass both confirmation, AND personality that well.
A good example would be Zan Parr Bar bloodlines they're particularly people-friendly and gentle, intelligent bloodlines. One of the easier bloodlines to work with and train but they do have their 'outliers' that turn out bucky. My own mare is a Zan Parr Bar, Doc Tari and Hancock bred horse and she has absolutely no buck to her - nor her dam, or sire, even when being trained. She's been cowy and gentle all her life. Her half sister who is the same bloodline through the sire has more of a Hancock personality than Zan Parr Bar and is bucky even being brought up with the same slow progression that my mare is. Bottom line the bloodline in QH's really does affect the personality of the horses today.
Not saying Hancock bred horses are bad - they're not! They're very good horses you just need to be able to work around and train out that buckers-tendency. Some will some won't.
I can't actually look up Rich Ricka Shay Doc myself but since it has 'Doc' in the name I'm going to go out on a limb and say they have Doc Tarri or a relative of him in their bloodline which can easily out-work the Hancock's typical bucky-ness from the horse. Doc bloodlines are another more laid-back and even tempered ( from my experience with docs ) so all in all that's one hell of a horse :)