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  • Gorgeous Arab colt for sale sabino 2012
  • Sabino arabians wanted

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    02-13-2012, 02:38 PM
  #11
Trained
If you decide you like her and want to buy her as a riding prospect, fine. She's not one I'd be using as a breeding prospect, she's not real stellar. A 10 month old bred for nothing specific but color.......$750 TOPS, no way in Hades would I pay over that for a horse who's never been shown, bred for nothing and whose parents have nothing to speak of. Sorry, IMHO only of course.

In the Arabian breed everyone is all hung up on pedigrees without actually studying what they mean. "Full sister to National Champ so and so", GREAT grand daughter of the immortal............whomever........But....WHAT HAS THE HORSE THEY'RE TRYING TO SELL EVER DONE? WHAT HAVE THAT HORSE'S PARENTS EVER DONE? Most of the time, not a dam* thing and they're trying to tell you that it will be the next National Champ because 5 generations ago the great great great was.....NOT SO MUCH.

And, with the coloring this horse has, while I love it and think it's cool, go in the main ring in a pure bred class and the judges won't even look. If they do, they'll most likely be hiding the gag reflex. Too much white is penalized in the pure breds.

That awful halter doesn't help her, but her head looks very coarse too, not something I'd be looking at for anything more than just a trail riding horse.
     
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    02-13-2012, 02:42 PM
  #12
Trained
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Originally Posted by WyndellaRose    
With all the mention of Arabian bloodlines, what about this filly?

DreamHorse.com Horse ID: 1701455 - CF Angelica

If this should be moved, that's fine. Wasn't sure where to post this.

This one is very pretty and at least started for your money. She's one to take a further look at, if she's bred how you like (though again.....Bey Shaw? REALLLY? Misspelling horses you're trying to brag on is a pet peeve of mine), and you could at least try her out and see if she meets your criteria.
     
    02-13-2012, 06:05 PM
  #13
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Originally Posted by Dreamcatcher Arabians    
If you decide you like her and want to buy her as a riding prospect, fine. She's not one I'd be using as a breeding prospect, she's not real stellar. A 10 month old bred for nothing specific but color.......$750 TOPS, no way in Hades would I pay over that for a horse who's never been shown, bred for nothing and whose parents have nothing to speak of. Sorry, IMHO only of course.

In the Arabian breed everyone is all hung up on pedigrees without actually studying what they mean. "Full sister to National Champ so and so", GREAT grand daughter of the immortal............whomever........But....WHAT HAS THE HORSE THEY'RE TRYING TO SELL EVER DONE? WHAT HAVE THAT HORSE'S PARENTS EVER DONE? Most of the time, not a dam* thing and they're trying to tell you that it will be the next National Champ because 5 generations ago the great great great was.....NOT SO MUCH.

And, with the coloring this horse has, while I love it and think it's cool, go in the main ring in a pure bred class and the judges won't even look. If they do, they'll most likely be hiding the gag reflex. Too much white is penalized in the pure breds.

That awful halter doesn't help her, but her head looks very coarse too, not something I'd be looking at for anything more than just a trail riding horse.
I wasn't looking for a class A show filly, I would have to travel to the other side of the state or out of state for any show in my region. But put her in a youth/4H show against stock/ranch horses, she will be noticed and not marked down for excessive white. I would want to be a pure family pleasure horse, and I haven't found any horse in my area that compares to her in breeding, conformation, and color. I limit myself to black, because that is what I actually want. She something that I can feel excited about. By the way, I looked at one solid black Arab in my area (hour and a half drive one way) and they wanted 4 grand for their green broke mare that had no accomplishments. Also, her sire and dam also had no accomplishments other than being pleasure horses.

Maybe I am just narrow headed about what kind/breed and color I want in a horse. But if I have no attachment, I have no real desire to make sure that horse has a permanent home with me. Went through three perfectly fine horses that I sold because I wasn't attached. I didn't have to sell them, but I wasn't excited to see them everyday. They were never neglected, I just wasn't emotionally attached nor sad when they left to new homes to love them. Seeing her face makes me want to go the extra mile to spend every free moment with her. It could be buying on emotion, and you pay more out of pocket for it. It isn't the money that worries me, but some major conformation flaw that I might not have noticed. Her white doesn't seem that excessive either, a tad amount above the hocks is all.
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    02-13-2012, 06:48 PM
  #14
Weanling
Cute filly, grossly overpriced. Not the least impressed with either parent. IMO, you are in love with a picture......definitely get updated pics to see if you get the same "warm fuzzy" feeling from them. Other than that, your money, but I think you are projecting an awful lot of expectation and emotion on a baby you haven't met and know nothing about.
     
    02-13-2012, 07:13 PM
  #15
Green Broke
If you pay that price, you're a sucker. Sabino Arabs are a dime a dozen now, it's not exactly like they're rare. I don't like the sire at all, he needs to be snipped, the ONLY reason he's a stud is because of his color. His conformation is mediocre at best. This filly is no different whatsoever then if I went and bred my Arab mare and tried to unload the foal for $4500. Stop looking at color and markings. I find it REALLY difficult to believe you can't find black Arabs for less then that price. And if you're willing to spend that amount, you CAN get quality black Arabs and just pay the money to have them shipped over.

If this isn't a forever horse, even LESS reason to spend $4500 on her. You will only lose money in the re-sale.
     
    02-13-2012, 07:37 PM
  #16
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Originally Posted by MacabreMikolaj    
If you pay that price, you're a sucker. Sabino Arabs are a dime a dozen now, it's not exactly like they're rare. I don't like the sire at all, he needs to be snipped, the ONLY reason he's a stud is because of his color. His conformation is mediocre at best. This filly is no different whatsoever then if I went and bred my Arab mare and tried to unload the foal for $4500. Stop looking at color and markings. I find it REALLY difficult to believe you can't find black Arabs for less then that price. And if you're willing to spend that amount, you CAN get quality black Arabs and just pay the money to have them shipped over.

If this isn't a forever horse, even LESS reason to spend $4500 on her. You will only lose money in the re-sale.
The seller is asking $2500 and sabino Arabians are not common where I live. My area is flooded with backyard bred stock and ranch horses. I love the Arabians and grew up riding a beautiful Arabian mare. The only horse I have ever been attached to until she was killed by a lightning strike. I have never had a special bond since then and I have already requested both recent pictures and video of the filly. I want to know what kind of condition she is in and how she carries herself. She isn't the first black Arabian I looked at, but she is the only one that held some sort of inner interest in me. I was looking at black Arabian mares/fillies that were priced less than $3000 before getting into shipping costs. If I were to buy her, it would be a forever purchase. Even if I didn't bond with her, I have three little girls that could bond with her.
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    02-13-2012, 07:40 PM
  #17
Trained
She doesn't have much white, even compared to some of mine. I'm hoping one day Sabino's will be more accepted in the show ring. Plus side, they don't worry too much about it in the performance ring, mostly just the halter which isn't really where I plan to show anyhow.
But if you think you're real set on her, is there someone close to her (I'm on ABN, people are great for this) that could go out and give their opinion? Maybe get some updated pics and a video for you?

As a side note - this filly isn't $4500 - you're quoting me and that was in reference to another filly by the breeder, not this seller. Sorry for the confusion.

PS - I have a super cool Black Sabino/Rabicano half Arabian filly for $1000. LOL!
     
    02-13-2012, 08:23 PM
  #18
Weanling
There are 14 Black Arabian mares with photo ads on dreamhorse.com. Several are stunning to the eye and pedigrees are listed. I know nothing of pedigrees except for I recall Bask being a "famous" or well known horse.
     
    02-13-2012, 08:25 PM
  #19
Green Broke
Sorry, my bad. $2500 is better but still ridiculously excessive. I guess if you're deadset on this color and these markings, but it's a really silly reason to spend so much on a horse. You can buy a bombproof 10 year old 4-H kid's champion around here for that money.
     
    02-13-2012, 08:48 PM
  #20
Green Broke
So are there not horses closer that you could see so you don't have to ship across the country? I wouldn't be comfortable shipping a baby that far unless I was the one doing it.
     

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