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  • Nijamin arabian stallion
  • Patino bloodline

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    08-31-2012, 12:07 PM
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arabian pedigree questions

Hi all,
Just saw in a thread in here that some if you know quite a bit about personality traits if certain lines/ stallions.
So here we go:
Khemosabi
Hucklebey Berry and Huckleberry Bey
Bask
Aladinn
Gdansk

I just bought a little gelding with these lines, some of them several times.

He is super smart, very personable, easily bored, sensitive, reasons, small, but a powerhouse and has endless trust in me.
Just would like to know if this is ancestral or from good upbringing

Thanks
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    08-31-2012, 12:09 PM
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Can't post the link for some reason, but he is on allbreed, Patino
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    09-01-2012, 12:31 AM
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Trained
When.....anybody? Please?
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    09-01-2012, 12:59 AM
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Trained
There is no evidence to support inheritance of personality. I personally believe that there is little that is defined by a horse's genetics, but instead is a nurture thing. I believe that correlations between families of horses with similar traits could be caused by external factors, such as similar types of people buying similar horses, and so using similar training/handling techniques.
     
    09-01-2012, 01:22 AM
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Trained
IMO nurturing is certainly a huge factor. No doubt. But how would you explain for example Furioso. Heavily used in German warmblood breeds. Known for completely unexplained blow-ups and no way of correcting it. Only waiting until he was back to normal helped. And to this day only one line back to him is enough to produce this trait.
Or Gharib, SE. His offspring is known for being difficult. Super performance horses but not for the normal rider/owner. Recent example Hadidi.
A mare I had, Gharib granddaughter through Nijamin. Difficult personality, super sensitive, stubborn as a donkey sometimes. Her son, the same. His daughter, out of an irrational, completely unrelated russian-Crabbet mare, inherited all traits from her sire and granddam, not a single one from her dam.
I was told by several breeders to stay away from Ruminaja Ali. Nuttcase, in their words. That I cannot tell, never met one of them.
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    09-01-2012, 01:27 AM
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If you were handed a horse and told that their line was known for being nut cases... would you expect a blow-up? Horses are very sensitive to our moods, and often waiting for a blow-up can be the cause of it.

I'm not saying that it is impossible that there is a genetic link. Just that there is not enough empirical evidence to suggest it, only anecdotal.
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    09-01-2012, 01:42 AM
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So the European way of stallion testing and licensing would be obsolete. One big part of the final rating of a candidate is temperament. And one who follows it can see a tendency towards certain lines being higher rated than others. Consistently.

Now im wondering if I should 've asked my question at all.........:/
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    09-01-2012, 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by deserthorsewoman    
Hi all,
Just saw in a thread in here that some if you know quite a bit about personality traits if certain lines/ stallions.
So here we go:
Khemosabi
Hucklebey Berry and Huckleberry Bey
Bask
Aladinn
Gdansk

I just bought a little gelding with these lines, some of them several times.

He is super smart, very personable, easily bored, sensitive, reasons, small, but a powerhouse and has endless trust in me.
Just would like to know if this is ancestral or from good upbringing

Thanks
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From what I gather, all Khemo horses are what you just described....though I here that from a lot of non Khemo arabian owners too. I think it was something the bedouins instilled in them.
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    09-01-2012, 07:44 AM
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Certainly. But some have more of it and some way less. Remember very well my very first one. He was generally the same but not even close to half as personable, sometimes careless and aloof. I had a lot more, none of them of the mentioned bloodlines and none of them as extreme as Patino. This is why im asking. I did have a LH Garcia granddaughter, who was very sweet but pretty opinionated at times. Other than her all strictly European bloodlines.
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    09-01-2012, 01:28 PM
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Green Broke
I am just learning the Arabian families, but looking at those lines I see a bunch of mixed up different lines that don't have alot in common.
Bask is a big bodied Polish race horse,
Bey's are fine boned dainty looking flashy show horses,
Kemosabi was a western pleasure and halter show horse,

So you basically have 3 different types in there, so even if personality is inherited no telling what you would end up with.
     

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