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    05-12-2010, 08:51 PM
Green Broke
I consider a backyard breeder someone with out
a( the means to financially cover any and all expenses accrued by a pregnant mare both during gestation and during delivery, and any potential issues with the foal afterward
B( adequate and safe facilities for the pregnant mare and foal
C( a specific goal for the foal other than to just have a baby,
Also d( someone who breeds just to sell and does not take the time to find a suitable stallion mare pair to breed for specific traits and performance
E( someone who breeds for emotional reasons
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    05-12-2010, 09:18 PM
^Or someone who breeds just because they have a mare and stally at their disposal
    05-12-2010, 09:19 PM
Green Broke
To add to Honeysuga's points:

F) someone who breeds horses together regardless of breed or quality, just to "make a baby"
G) someone who assumes because they like their horse, and think it's pretty, that makes it breeding quality, without seeking, or ignoring outside opinion

Marks of a good/reputable breeder:

Proves their horse has a REASON to reproduce, generally through showing or working competition, or their horse proves itself in the working ranch environment

Gains OUTSIDE opinion that their horses are of breeding quality

Has horses vetted, up to date, performs health screening and std checks before breeding

Is able to provide proof that their breeding stock has been tested and is free of any/all genetic diseases particular to their breed and that they are breeding sound animals

Seeks to match animals for breeding together that best compliment and compensate for each other's shortcomings, rather than breeding to the animal that is "cheapest" or "closest"

And, particularly in the case of dogs - sticks with one freaking breed!
    05-12-2010, 09:23 PM
^ OH yes, all those lhasa-poos, jack-a-poodles....ugh! I can breed my JRT to my (now neutered, but you get the point) yellow lab, but would I just to create a fun new "jack-a-lab"? NO, because I consider myself a responcible pet owner.
    05-12-2010, 09:24 PM
Green Broke
Yes, that is one often overlooked, most quality breeders stick to one or two breeds. Often if there are 4,5,+ breeds/ species coming from one breeder it is a critter mill/byb.

That is one thing that gets me, giving mix breed animals a name to make them seem something other than a mutt. Cockapoos, puggles, pintabians, quarabs, why don't you just call it what it is, a mix breed...
    05-12-2010, 09:26 PM
LOL you mean the Heinz 57 pups?
    05-12-2010, 09:26 PM
Green Broke
Oh, agreed, the designer dogs being a whole separate horrible can of worms in my book, I hate it when I see a pugs, poodles, shih tzus, chins, maltese, yorkies, and st bernards ALL advertised from the same breeder.
    05-12-2010, 09:30 PM
Green Broke
Originally Posted by equiniphile    
^ OH yes, all those lhasa-poos, jack-a-poodles....ugh! I can breed my JRT to my (now neutered, but you get the point) yellow lab, but would I just to create a fun new "jack-a-lab"? NO, because I consider myself a responcible pet owner.
Ohohoh, don't even get me started on the designer breeds. It's the same as people thinking every draft cross must be a warmblood. Call a spade a spade, for chrissakes. I have absolutely nothing against mixed bred dogs OR horses, hell ALL my horses are crossbred. But I don't feel the need to be pretentious and pass them off as anything but the mutts they are. It doesn't make me love them any less.

(sorry, I get riled. I breed dogs, and have put an immense amount of money, effort, learning and genetic research into breeding very, very GOOD dogs. I hate those that give dog breeders a bad name.)
    05-12-2010, 09:36 PM
Green Broke
Exacty Indy. When you breed an animal you should throw your whole life into it, you should learn as much as you can about it and the possible genetic diseases that come with it. I don't know about you but it is hard enough to trying to get to know everything about 1(or 2) breed/species let alone the 5 or 6+ some people mill out...
    05-12-2010, 09:55 PM
Green Broke
A reputable breeder is someone who takes responsibility for the animals they reproduce. I had two Dalmatians growing up. One from a very reputable breeder and one from the guy down the road. There was a brief period of time when we thought we'd have to re-home our dogs due to financial reasons. The reputable breeder offered to take our (spayed) dog back no problems. The guy down the street told me take the dog to the pound.

A reputable breeder would make sure that the person getting a puppy (for example) was knowledgeable about the breed or at least willing to learn. This would prevent so many dogs being homeless.

A reputable breeder makes sure their puppies leave with shots, de-wormed and proper socialization.

A reputable breeder looks out for the betterment of the breed, including function, good genes and temperament. They don't breed because of color or size. (100 plus lb "Pit Bulls" and 6 ounce Chihuahuas)

A reputable breeder has their breeding stock tested for all possible defects to prevent future generations from having to deal with health problems. I'm not saying it's an exact science but it helps.

They do not breed for money. In fact some come out even and some come out owing. They do not sell a puppy just because you have cash in your hand.

They do not list their puppies on craigslist or kijiji or hoobly. They do not stick fliers on the grocery store's wall. They do not need to.

They are knowledgeable about their breed. They can answer your questions and tell you what to expect. They are willing to answer more question should they arise.

They offer a health guarantee and a bill of sale.

They would NEVER sell to a pet store.

A back-yard-breeder:

Has several litters a year.
Often the puppies are not registered.
They do not care who buys the puppy.
Often the puppies do not have shots.
They don't think about the puppies futures.
They make excuses for breeding "dog got out came home pregnant", "wanted to let my kids see puppies born", "my Poopsie is so sweet she should have puppies"....
Prices are usually cheaper.
Willing to sell to pet stores.

Back yard breeders are the main reason why there is an epidemic of homeless pets. This is my opinion, take it as you may. It is what I believe and see. I have volunteered at high kill shelters. I have seen pregnant dogs, puppies, purebreds put in the garbage can. I cannot unsee what I have seen. I offer my home whenever a dog is in need but I can only take in so many and only do so much. Why do I have to clean up the mess that these people are creating? I just wish I could walk them through the shelters and show them what they are doing!

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