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post #21 of 77 Old 04-20-2009, 03:11 PM
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I understand that Spastic_Dove and I agreewith some of what you said.

A good cowboy always has a better horse at the end of the ride, a poor cowboy will be afoot reguardless of the horse.

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Does anyone have any actual proof that TB race horse breeders breed for speed only and that TB racers break down more? Just read an article that said only .5% of TB's that raced last year in the U.S. Suffered any injury at the tracks. That's the lowest incidence of injury on record.
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close2prt that's always been my contention why should anyone care if they don't like what another person breeds? If the breeder is happy with it that's all that matters.
Not if they are then promoting that horse as an example of the particular breed. If they are using it as a personal riding horse, sure. There are breed standards for a reason.

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Does anyone have any actual proof that TB race horse breeders breed for speed only and that TB racers break down more? Just read an article that said only .5% of TB's that raced last year in the U.S. Suffered any injury at the tracks. that's the lowest incidence of injury on record.
At the tracks isn't the biggest issue. Spastic was talking about LONG TERM soundness. Show me a study that shows only .5% of TB that had racing careers having soundness problems later in life, and i'll be convinced :]

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The question also is caused by the number of horses turned to stud or broom mare as young 3 and 4 years old. True, this is usually champion of major races, but injured horses like Big Brown was turned to stud soon after he lost the Belmount Stakes.

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If anyone thinks TB race horses are the only ones with soundness problems later in life their turning a blind eye. Theres 1000's of jumpers, barrel racers, cutters, reiners, pretty much every discipline that starts horses at a young age.
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I was just using TBs as an example -- They're not the only horses that break down and they don't all break down.
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I have never said otherwise. However there aren't many who do it on the massive scale of the TB racing industry, and none who do it so publicly. Hence, it is the most known about, and the most protested against.

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I wasn't referring to your post -- More to countys

And as far as your wanting proof, I don't have any statistics or tables to give you. I can just give you what I know from being around the track...Horses that are fast but not built for long time soundness are often put out to stud just because they were fast. If this is right or wrong is not the question, but it does bring faults into a line of horses.

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Halter QH are another, just as valid example. They are bred for looks, NOT performance or even basic soundness. Problems such as Navicular are more prevalent in the heavily halter bred QH than in other QH and other breeds. It happens everywhere. The fact that diseases (not sure if that is the right word...) such as Hypp and Herda are still prevalent is proof that there are far too many people out there breeding that do not care about the horses they are producing, or the impact their choices may have on the breed or individual horse.

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Yeah I didn't see yours until I already posted, lol!

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