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post #21 of 73 Old 02-11-2012, 10:21 PM
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I'm not trying to be rude to you, I'm just telling you things from a different viewpoint... I wouldn't go about having huge plans with top studs and then be shot down when you talk to their owner..

If she were mine, I wouldn't breed her..I'm just against breeding grade horses. You have even said that you were against it..Are you going to be one of the people who tell others over and over again to NOT breed grades and saying that it's an awful idea..then you go and breed a grade? That doesn't make much sense to me..You're being a little hypocritical don't you think?

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post #22 of 73 Old 02-11-2012, 10:29 PM Thread Starter
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i just think its not necessary unless the mare has really proven her self to be a great performer in some dicipline, has a good dispostion, conformation and the horses in her background also have many of the same working qualities.
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post #23 of 73 Old 02-11-2012, 10:36 PM
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At least her background isn't a complete and total mystery. You just don't have paper to prove it. If it is something you are going to do though, I would strongly encourage you to look into a breeding that would result in papers on the foal. You never know what life will throw at you, so having the baby registered would be ideal, IMO.
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post #24 of 73 Old 02-11-2012, 11:22 PM
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I wouldn't breed this mare unless you were definitely going to keep the foal. Unregistered horses are almost worthless as babies, even riding horses aren't bringing much unless it is really nicely broke to do something.

I think she is a nice mare, but you could have a nice foal out with nice papers for what it would cost you to raise this baby.

If you are set, I would pick a decent looking stallion. She is a nice looking mare, don't breed her to crap like some do with grade horses!

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post #25 of 73 Old 02-12-2012, 12:01 AM
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I generally don't support breeding of grade mares but Your mare has some nice features I wouldn't totally discard idea of breeding her, if you are looking to get a keeper foal.I would be looking to a stud that you could register the foal & a short couple stud to offset your mare's long back.I would consider breeding her more to an APHA stud then you could have a foal that could be eligible to register as pinto.I know there are a few studs around here that are APHA & they do breed grade mares. The stallion owners are active in the CPtHA {Canadian Pinto Association } so they, as well as several of their clients go on to show these youngsters.
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post #26 of 73 Old 02-12-2012, 12:05 AM
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You know, it's up to you. She is lovely. Long in the back/loin, neck ties in high and appears from some of the photos to be short. Front legs look off, maybe camped out in the back. Personally I wouldn't after seeing the side shot, but it could just be the photo. No horse is perfect, she looks athletic and capable.
You said you want to keep the foal, train it as your own so there is no fault in that. You obvisouly know the costs associated with breeding and raising the foal so im sure you are prepared. She looks very loved and well cared for.

I agree it would be best to cross her so that the foal can be registered. What exactly is her performance record? I would think long and hard about the risks and time it's going take. She'll be out of commission for a while, will have a foal by her side for a year. It's tough. If you go the QH route maybe look into an equally athletic appendix bred QH/paint/pinto. Going with a foundation or reining/cutting horse could look wonky, I'd play up her athleticism.

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post #27 of 73 Old 02-12-2012, 12:16 AM
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In my opinion, registration papers only matter if you are heading to the show ring or to sell the foal.

There are plenty of crap registered horses out there. If you want the baby, do you care if it is registered? It doesn't seem to bother you that your mare is not registered.

There are a lot of registries you can register the foal with, Pinto is one if you get color.

My concern is not that the foal may or may not be registered, but that the mare is 11 and maiden. I prefer to breed a mare by 5, before thier hips set. That said, I have never purposfully bred a mare - but there has been one 'oops!' and one mare purchased in foal - which was the best experience EVER!

All in all, it is a very personal decision...
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post #28 of 73 Old 02-12-2012, 08:45 AM
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I've seen papered and un-papered horses that were a train wreck. I've got mixed feelings about breeding grade horses, but if you feel like you have a good mare and can breed her to a stud of equal or better qualities...go ahead. My mare was 10 yrs old when I bred her for the first time and in a few months I'll get to see her first baby.
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post #29 of 73 Old 02-12-2012, 09:45 AM Thread Starter
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thats exciting gigem, i think i am going to breed her as long as her health check is good and i can find a good stud. and only to a stud that will make the foal in some way registerable.
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post #30 of 73 Old 02-12-2012, 11:25 AM
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Did you know Morgan has a 1/2 Morgan registry I don't know the paticulars of it but you might want to look in to it. Your mare is really nice. It's up to you if you breed her or not. Foals are alot of fun to have around, but it also alot of work and it's nerve wracking having a mare close to foaling, lots of sleepless nights waiting, and checking. Alot of mares foal with out any issues, but when there is an issue it's an emergency and the outcome is usually grave.
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