Breed for practicality or...? - The Horse Forum
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 23 Old 01-15-2009, 01:41 AM Thread Starter
Started
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Washington State
Posts: 1,761
• Horses: 2
Breed for practicality or...?

Hello everyone. I'm having something of an inner battle with myself. I would like to breed my beautiful, perfect Welsh mare eventually. I have looked into it quite a bit, and I've come across a dilemma. I think she could make for some really good crosses (particularly with a spanish horse) that would be gorgeous and talented and so on. She also has the potential to have an exemplary pure Welsh foal.

It would probably be more practical for me to breed her purebred, particularly if I ever had to sell the foal... but it is so tempting to try a cross (not just any cross though, it would have to be a very good stallion). Any opinions?
Eolith is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 23 Old 01-15-2009, 07:42 AM
Weanling
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: USA
Posts: 346
• Horses: 1
Well, I think it really has to do a lot with your long term plans and goals. Do plan to keep the foal and train it and show it yourself? Or do you think you will sell it once it has matured? If you think you will sell right off the bat (within the next few years) I say breed pure. But if you plan to keep the foal, train it and show it for several years, I say go ahead and try the cross. Down the rode if you decided to sell it people will look more at the horse's training and talent, more so than it's breed. I don't know much about Welsh crosses but I would suggest doing a lot of research into what horses make for good Welsh crosses. Have you seen any Spanish breeds mixed with Welsh before? If possible, contact someone that owns a Welsh cross similar to the combination you want (from the same stud you're interested in would be even better) and ask them some questions.

Really it's up to you and your plans.

Jubilee
Jubilee is offline  
post #3 of 23 Old 01-15-2009, 09:04 AM Thread Starter
Started
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Washington State
Posts: 1,761
• Horses: 2
Thanks for the input. I definitely have the intention of keeping the foal and training and showing it myself. I tend to be one of those who tries as hard as she can to keep any horse she gets throughout its life... the only reason I would sell would be for something dire. I would feed my horses before myself. ;)

I keep going back and forth. I think I will look more into the purebred stud. If anyone would care to see him, he's at the following link:

Bryngoch Welsh Cobs :: Home to *Nebo Rhodri - Section D Stallion
Eolith is offline  
post #4 of 23 Old 01-15-2009, 09:37 AM
Foal
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: England...anywhere near a horse
Posts: 74
• Horses: 0
We had this problem with our welsh mare she's gorgeous and really well breed and would have some really beautiful pure breed foals but she'd also be nice for crosses

If it's her first foal it's definitely best to breed pure breed my welsh mare is now in foal due in may to a pure breed!

The stallion you've chose is superb Nebo is a very well known name in welsh breeding, and he has Nebo Brenin and Nebo Daniel and Parc Welsh Flyer who are all time greats he also has Nebo Brenin on both sides so he is line breed too to keep type. I don't think much to his sire tho as i've never heard that prefix but he's very well breed

may i ask is your mare registered?

And Good Luck

Last edited by welshy; 01-15-2009 at 09:40 AM.
welshy is offline  
post #5 of 23 Old 01-15-2009, 11:12 AM
Showing
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,203
• Horses: 2
You should look at what the demand is for you area (gosh everyone knows nothing has been selling). I would always urge to breed for a purebred as they hold more value.
Are you prepared to keep the foal if it doesn't sell?
my2geldings is offline  
post #6 of 23 Old 01-15-2009, 12:36 PM
Foal
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: England...anywhere near a horse
Posts: 74
• Horses: 0
Quote:
Originally Posted by welshy View Post
I don't think much to his sire tho as i've never heard that prefix but he's very well breed
Oh and here i just meant that i'd not heard the prefix not that the stallion's sire was no good because the sire must be good with that breeding anyway good luck!
welshy is offline  
post #7 of 23 Old 01-15-2009, 02:12 PM
Yearling
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: NJ
Posts: 852
• Horses: 3
Quote:
Originally Posted by CacheDawnTaxes View Post
You should look at what the demand is for you area (gosh everyone knows nothing has been selling). I would always urge to breed for a purebred as they hold more value.
Are you prepared to keep the foal if it doesn't sell?

Quality horses are still selling for 5, 10, 20 thousand dollars if not more.

Grade horses and questionable registered ones, however, are not selling. If people can't afford to eat, they can't afford a trail pony.

Dressage in Jeans - My blog with dressage tips for happy, relaxed horses, specifically for those who ride dressage in western saddles, no saddles, cowboy boots, or jeans. ;) Also now with cute pygmy goat pictures! :P
mayfieldk is offline  
post #8 of 23 Old 01-15-2009, 03:53 PM
Yearling
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Maryland
Posts: 1,348
• Horses: 4
Quote:
Originally Posted by mayfieldk View Post
Quality horses are still selling for 5, 10, 20 thousand dollars if not more.

Grade horses and questionable registered ones, however, are not selling. If people can't afford to eat, they can't afford a trail pony.

Exactly, the woman who sold me my mare just sold a big pinto hunter for 25,000 a few weeks ago.


I would also say that you should breed purebred and I like the stallion you posted. Just curious, can we see a picture of your mare?
Supermane is offline  
post #9 of 23 Old 01-15-2009, 04:56 PM
Trained
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Australia
Posts: 6,179
• Horses: 4
Quote:
Are you prepared to keep the foal if it doesn't sell?
Quote:
I definitely have the intention of keeping the foal and training and showing it myself. I tend to be one of those who tries as hard as she can to keep any horse she gets throughout its life... the only reason I would sell would be for something dire. I would feed my horses before myself. ;)
She (?) stated that she is planning on keeping the foal, training and showing it. Not to say that something won't come up one day but as she said she won't be selling it unless somehting really dire comes up.

If your planning on showing it, what shows are you planning to go to? If you breed a purebred you will have much more scope, showing wise. Rhodri is a very nice looking boy. Have you worked out your mares faults and looked at wether Rhodri will balance them out?

wild_spot is offline  
post #10 of 23 Old 01-15-2009, 06:00 PM
Green Broke
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 4,138
• Horses: 3
Welsh crosses usually turnout nice and sell well. With a cross, you would need to train and prove the horse before it would be able to be sold for a decent price though. A purebred would sell as an unproven foal better, but in this market, selling anything but well trained and proven horses is nearly impossible...
luvs2ride1979 is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the The Horse Forum forums, you must first register.

Already have a Horse Forum account?
Members are allowed only one account per person at the Horse Forum, so if you've made an account here in the past you'll need to continue using that account. Please do not create a new account or you may lose access to the Horse Forum. If you need help recovering your existing account, please Contact Us. We'll be glad to help!

New to the Horse Forum?
Please choose a username you will be satisfied with using for the duration of your membership at the Horse Forum. We do not change members' usernames upon request because that would make it difficult for everyone to keep track of who is who on the forum. For that reason, please do not incorporate your horse's name into your username so that you are not stuck with a username related to a horse you may no longer have some day, or use any other username you may no longer identify with or care for in the future.



User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.


Old Thread Warning
This thread is more than 90 days old. When a thread is this old, it is often better to start a new thread rather than post to it. However, If you feel you have something of value to add to this particular thread, you can do so by checking the box below before submitting your post.

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
wot breed would you all say he is hayley_paddy Horse Breeds 28 06-02-2009 02:06 PM
What breed would you say he is? BraideeMyBaby Horse Breeds 22 12-08-2008 11:34 AM
To Breed or Not to Breed, That is the question?? aappyfan1 Horse Breeding 14 09-28-2008 11:56 PM
What breed? arastangrider Horse Breeds 10 02-25-2008 02:59 PM
what breed is he? Jr_lover Horse Breeds 16 02-05-2008 06:23 AM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome