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    04-18-2010, 03:45 PM
  #1
Foal
Talking Breeding bay Mare

A few family friends, my sister, my mama, and I convinced my dad to breed his beloved horse, Chicky. She is a bay Thoroughbred, and I'm pretty sure that her base color is bay as well. He wants a bay that looks exactly like her (and we all know that's not going to happen.) But he does want a bay. We know that if you breed to a bay, you're most likely to get a bay. But we want the best chance of getting a bay foal. He prefers filly, but everyone will take any sex. And I was wondering if anyone could help us out with picking a stallion that is stocky, and will throw bays. And preferably ship semen. He can be almost any breed, as long as his foals will be stocky. (We don't need another hard keeper, like her.)So if you know of a good stallion, post about him here or message me. My parents would like it too be a cheapish price. I think they said under $500, but they'll pay more probably. Here are some pictures of Chicky.
She is the horse too the right in the first picture. Sorry, but those are the best pictures we can get right now.
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    04-18-2010, 04:16 PM
  #2
Green Broke
Wow.


I have typed out and then deleted three separate responses to this post.

For now, I will leave you with three questions:

1. You are aware that, on top of the 500$ stud fee, artificial insemination will cost an additional 4-500$ from your vet? You can not do it at home with a turkey baster. You have to test your mare's estro levels and test ova maturity sizes to pinpoint your nine hour ovulation window, and correspond with the stallion owner to have fresh cooled semen collected and shipped to arrive to you within that window.

2. You are already limiting your potential foal's possible marketability by breeding a mare that I assume has not proven herself or made a name for her self in any working activities/showing or competition. Why would you further wish to diminish any value of your foal (and essentially make it worthless to anyone but you) by "not caring what breed the stallion is as long as he is under 500$". It's nice to imagine you will always keep all your horses, but part of being mature is accepting that things sometimes happen in life that are beyond your control, and sometimes sacrifices have to be made. I assure you, if the decision came down to whose mouth to feed, yours, or the foals, your father would choose yours in a heartbeat. So by intentionally breeding a foal where you literally don't give a **** about it's parentage, you are creating a foal anyone besides you literally won't give a **** about.

3. Color should be the LAST thing on your list when looking at a stallion - behind health, conformation, temperament, talent/abilities, marketability, etc. COST should be well down on that list as well.

You are going about this whole thing very backwards. I beg you to rethink your approach and do a LOT more research before deciding whether or not you even SHOULD breed your mare, and should you decide that AFTER you have done your homework, you should - THEN start looking for a stallion.


If you just want a bay filly that looks kinda like the mare - buy one. There are bay fillies all over Craigslist for about 150 bucks - far less than you would invest in vet care, mare care, AI fees and stud fees.
     
    04-18-2010, 05:46 PM
  #3
Yearling
Okay please, please think about what you are doing. If you are breeding for color alone, please don't breed at all. Like Indy said, color should be the LAST thing you breed for, with conformation, talent, and accomplishments being first and foremost. Also, it can get very expensive to breed a mare. Again, like Indy said you can find a little bay filly for way, way less than what it would cost to breed. Also, are you willing to put your mare at risk? I know it's not all that common, but it still happens. By breeding the mare you are potentially putting her life and the life of a foal in danger.

Please, please think long and hard about this. Just because the mare is pretty doesn't mean she's got conformation worthy of breeding. Just because your dad loves her does not make her worthy of breeding.

Do not, DO NOT breed for color. Like both Indy and I said, color should be the LAST thing you breed for.
     
    04-18-2010, 06:00 PM
  #4
Showing
In order for a thoroughbred to be eligible for registration, the mating must be live cover.
Other than that, Indy and Kassie covered it. You're better off buying a foal already on the ground for that price, and then you'll be guaranteed color and sex. For $500, you aren't likely to get a quality stud, and you'll be producing an unmarketable foal.
Please think twice before following through with this idea.
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    04-18-2010, 06:01 PM
  #5
Green Broke
Honestly, when I first read it, I thought it was a joke. Breeding for color, to whatever breed of stallion, to a mare who I am assuming hasn't proven herself in the show ring or as a broodmare? Hmmmm....
     
    04-18-2010, 06:35 PM
  #6
Started
Wow. I would seriously rethink your ideas. From the sounds of it, you want to breed her because your dad wants a bay foal, which you can find anywhere for pretty darn cheap. I agree with all the above issues with going about breeding the way you are.
Babies are cool, its definitely an experience to care for a mare through breeding, pregnancy, birth, and raising the foal, but you should do it for the right reasons, which do not include breeding specifically for color, just for the learning experience, or because you want to create another "mom" or "dad" that you'll keep forever hence you don't care about lineage, ect.
I would love to someday breed my Arabian to some type of lighter warmblood or spanish bred horse, but I want her to prove herself in the show ring first, and I want to make sure she has the kind of temperment that I would want to breed, and only then will I even seriously think about it. I am not going to limit myself based on money either, so I am going to need to make sure that I have enough money to care for mom and foal, and it is VERY expensive, not to mention you have a good 2-3 years before the horse is even rideable. Please rethink breeding your mare.
     
    04-18-2010, 06:38 PM
  #7
Banned
Ditto with what everyone else says. Oh, and being stocky doesn't make the horse an easier keeper.
     
    04-18-2010, 07:00 PM
  #8
Weanling
Ditto to everything above, plus the fact I am sure that bay colored babies are plentiful too and more likely will sell for around $50 to $75 at least in my area.

Also babies are cute and not cute, they take a lot of work and as they mature and grow they become big pains in the rear at a certain period in their life when they think they rule the world.

There is also the fact of care for the mare - it isn't too often, but there are times when things go wrong and the mare is lost or the baby. Read the Sadly thread here. That in itself would make me think twice before breeding.
     
    04-18-2010, 07:09 PM
  #9
Showing
The others have covered everything but....how does being stocky make a horse an easy-keeper??
     
    04-18-2010, 10:41 PM
  #10
Green Broke
Wow.. This became a bashing from the start. Not that I don't agree, but it just sounds attacking.
     

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