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post #11 of 25 Old 04-18-2010, 11:19 PM
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post #12 of 25 Old 04-18-2010, 11:34 PM
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My only problem with what a few of you have said is that winning a ton of ribbons isn't necessarily guaranteeing a good horse. If that were true then the unshown work horses should not be breeding as they haven't proven themselves in the ring. If the animal is a good worker in what ever you choose to use them in then that is what matters(along with the long list of other qualifications stated above like confo,resale value of foal...etc...). Otherwise I completly agree with the above posters.

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post #13 of 25 Old 04-18-2010, 11:37 PM
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Thanks. Also, if your looking to breed for color (although I do not like the idea...) get her gene's color tested. If you times bay with bay (figuring the both horses have homozygous bay? I think? I forget genetics.) your outcome will most likley be.. Bay...
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post #14 of 25 Old 04-18-2010, 11:42 PM
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Wow.. This became a bashing from the start. Not that I don't agree, but it just sounds attacking.


I disagree - I think this is one of the more polite breeding threads. There was maybe one reply that was a little harsh - And it was one of the only ones that didn't contain good, useful and much-needed information.


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post #15 of 25 Old 04-19-2010, 12:08 AM
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Honestly, when I first read it, I thought it was a joke. Breeding for color, to whatever breed of stallion, to a mare who I am assuming hasn't proven herself in the show ring or as a broodmare? Hmmmm....
Agreed.

Bay has GOT to be the MOST common color of horses around, especially Thoroughbreds. Look on any horse sale site, go to any auction. I guarantee you it will not be hard to find a horse that looks like your fathers.

This is irresponsible breeding, plain and simple. Is there even a goal for the foal other than looking like it's mother? Yikes, I better just leave this right now.

I know you won't want to hear this and think we may be harsh, but you can only see so much irresponsible breeding before you get sick of it. For every horse someone does NOT breed is one more that can be saved from an unfortunate situation whether it be abuse, neglect or slaughter - that is how alot of people see it, not "awww a pretty bay foal!!" which is why these responses MAY seem harsh.

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post #16 of 25 Old 04-19-2010, 12:59 AM
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To the OP: Please read this thread, it is very informative:

What constitutes as breed-worthy?


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post #17 of 25 Old 04-19-2010, 06:51 PM
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Sounds like your father had the right idea from the start.
Bay is the color NO BREEDERS purposely breed for, usually.
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post #18 of 25 Old 04-19-2010, 11:58 PM
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I agree and dis-agree on alot of this, I do think you should look for "quality" but I know some horses that were amazing at what they do but have never stepped in the show ring and then I have seen some that seemed great in the ring but were worthless anywhere else,... as for color, pick quality first then look for color... best to stick with same breed, to many mixed horses all ready... and I understand price but keep in mind there are vet fees and not to mention the down time of the mare....oh and just because its stocky doesn't mean its easy to keep, could mean you just have to feed it that much more..

Now I have to say I am breeding my mare for some of the same reasons you are but.... I have a non color paint with nice bloodlines and I want a colored baby so I found a quality paint stud at a good price, I know my mare will have some down time and that's fine with us, we don't do the showing but love trails and stuff I also know I could go and buy a baby already born and get exactly what I want at a lower price but I love just about everything from our mare and want to carry on my best friends bloodline...

All I can say is be careful and don't do it if its just because you want a baby you can get babys anywhere for free alot of times, but if you want a baby from your mare make sure the stud is worthy...and this dosn't mean he has to have some fancy title and a ton of ribbons...

Just my 2 cents and I am a newbie here and don't know a ton about horses, just know my babys and whats best for us...good luck
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i agree and dis-agree on alot of this, I do think you should look for "quality" but I know some horses that were amazing at what they do but have never stepped in the show ring and then I have seen some that seemed great in the ring but were worthless anywhere else,... as for color, pick quality first then look for color... best to stick with same breed, to many mixed horses all ready... and I understand price but keep in mind there are vet fees and not to mention the down time of the mare....oh and just because its stocky doesn't mean its easy to keep, could mean you just have to feed it that much more..

Now I have to say I am breeding my mare for some of the same reasons you are but.... I have a non color paint with nice bloodlines and I want a colored baby so I found a quality paint stud at a good price, I know my mare will have some down time and that's fine with us, we don't do the showing but love trails and stuff I also know I could go and buy a baby already born and get exactly what I want at a lower price but I love just about everything from our mare and want to carry on my best friends bloodline...
That explains everything I was going to type. I apologize for not clearing up some things and leaving out details, I was in a rush and didn't look it over. My bad.
She is NOT a champion horse in the ring, but that doesn't make her useless or not worthy of continuing her lines. She is a trail horse, and we're are woking on training her in barrel racing and eventing. She doesn't have to prove herself for us in the arena because we don't plan on doing anything like a pleasure or horsemanship classes. Well, there is the dressage in eventing, but we already know that is not her strong point. And the foal is too carry her bloodlines because she has been one of our best horses in years, maybe the best. She is loyal, hard working, dependable (especially since she has a "built in GPS" as we call her navigation skills,) a people-pleaser, easy going, and I could keep going but won't.
And we would prefer a stock type horse because she is a hard keeper at times, not ALL the time and we don't want her foal to be teeny weeny since it is a purebred TB (I know, I know, stereotypical. It is just that every TB we have had and/or seen was teeny weeny.) We don't mind having a "mut" or even a TB crossbreed that has registeries. Why? You may ask. Because the foal isn't going to be a topline show horse, and we don't show our horses in the arena in a serious manner.
And yes, we would prefer an accomplished stud, but it doesn't have to an arena stud, if you know what I mean. Also, we are looking for a cheaper stud than 1000$, not 500$ (my bad misinterpretation) because we know how much the vet bills and all of that will cost.
Lastly, Chicky is just past the prime to breed (or so we have been told.) And we don't want to breed her when she's older, so we have a better chance of keeping her healthy. I know that majority of you said just buy a bay foal. But we simply can't. Why? Because if we loose Chicky, that's the end, and we won't have a foal from her that my dad has to fall back on. We are NOT breeding her because we "want a cute bay foal."
I think I covered it all, I'll post again if I remember anything I wanted to say that I forgot too. Wow, that was a lot longer than I wanted it too be.

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But you should breed every foal to where it could be a good horse in the future..let's see..... I think the saying goes " When you breed an animal, breed for quality and potential, even if the baby might not be used for anything special".
Nice, uh? Lol
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