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post #101 of 186 Old 01-02-2010, 01:51 PM
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Good breeding is in the eye of the beholder....

The Black Stallion Paint Alot of people think that this colt was well bred. I don't. And yes I owned him...so I'm sure it's okay for me to post this.

In some situations I'd rather rescue in others I'd rather breed.

If I need a fun family horse, a good trail buddy, a little ranch gelding then I'd rescue.

If I needed my next reining prospect then I would definatly breed.

Some of you say you've rescued "good reining" horses out of the meat pen. Lets see pictures and pedigree info and we will see if they are what I considerd to be a good horse. If I'm gonna spend thousands and thousands of dollars on a reining prospect (training fees, etc) then it's not going to be a crap shoot. I'm gonna buy the best breed horse that I can find, and you just don't get horses like that in the meat pen.
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but it will never happen, its NOT POSSIBLE

lol you cant say never, and not possible. a lot of things in this world were reffered to as not possible and they are now. It takes time and it takes a lot of petitions, meetings and so fourth. if it were voted upon it would win hands down.. there are more ppl against it than for it i think anyway. not saying that as a statistic.


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you just don't get horses like that in the meat pen.
i did.... i got 4 ... one was a dun qh.. who reins pretty dang well. . maybe not top of the world showing #1 in the world.. but after 5 months of training hes great.. Hes out of work right now b.c his mommys too busy working to afford him and her bills. but its the point that when ppl say you cant or wont get show horses out of the kill pen, thats a lie... I got a little mix bred from the kill pen and she WAS a jumping show horse before she went semi-lame from not being cared for after she was sold. The other 2 i got that same day are both misfits haha. One being my cruddy confo 18 hand mare who was bred 10 x and retired, and the other was a VERY abused paint horse whos just a trail horse now. my big mare is a great jumper and her training has come a long way .. just saying, it IS possible.. just bc they didnt sell dosent mean anything. thats like saying you wont find a pretty horse in the kill pen.. my paint is a black and white GORGEOUS floaty mover and he was leaving the next morning.

i can show my mare... i plan on it next year when our training inproves... so bc she was in the kill pen shes not showing quality?

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post #103 of 186 Old 01-02-2010, 01:55 PM
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There have been petitions since the age of the dinosaurs (it feels like it's been that long!), and since slaughter has been banned our little pony friends get to make a long trip up to Canada, or south to Mexico to be stabbed in the back. Congress simply has too much to deal with than worrying about the welfare of animals.

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post #104 of 186 Old 01-02-2010, 01:57 PM
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lol you cant say never, and not possible. a lot of things in this world were reffered to as not possible and they are now. It takes time and it takes a lot of petitions, meetings and so fourth. if it were voted upon it would win hands down.. there are more ppl against it than for it i think anyway. not saying that as a statistic.
its been going on for years and years. it wont happen. its not possible to control something like that. they cant control the population of dogs, cats, etc. so what makes you think the horses will be different? no matter what laws you try to enforce there are many people who just wont agree with them and do as they please anyway without fear of consequence. you think because there are dog fighting rings broken up daily that there are not hundreds more out there? you think it will ever stop. NOPE it wont. so you can dream all you want. but it wont happen.... people have this odd theory that petitioning will fix everything....
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post #105 of 186 Old 01-02-2010, 02:00 PM
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Let's make a petition to make petitions work!

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post #106 of 186 Old 01-02-2010, 02:04 PM
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Let's make a petition to make petitions work!
How about a petition to create a government office of petitions to regulate all petitions!

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How about a petition to create a government office of petitions to regulate all petitions!
then they can petition to regulate who can sign petitions!
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post #108 of 186 Old 01-02-2010, 02:06 PM
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still, people drive without licenses all the time... whats going to stop people from breeding then?

also i have a HUGE problem with it being said that if you arent making a profit you shouldnt be breeding. if you understand what it takes to breed cost wise, you would understand why a lot of people dont make money breeding. same runs true with good dog breeders. sure you can be breeding show quality dogs with low chance of health problems, but all the health testing, vet visits, etc. takes right from that profit youre going to get. you think you can breed 2 good horses and have a good foal sold for a large amount of money to cover your costs? most likely not! people want ESTABLISHED sires and broodmares, in order to establish, the first foals they produce arent going to sell for much.

Lets see. I breed horses and make a profit. I know quite a few horse breeders who make a profit on their horses. I also know several dog breeders who also make a profit on their dogs. All are shown have all health tests done. Good dogs horses what ever will bring good money.

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post #109 of 186 Old 01-02-2010, 02:10 PM
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Barn Princess I didn't start an argument with you, so lets be adults here. I don't show at local shows therefor 99% of rescues WILL NOT do what I want them to do.

I have rescue many horses (over 75% of the horses I've owned have been rescued) so don't preach to me.

However you will NEVER find the bloodlines I want in a rescue EVER! Simple as that...
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THEN WE CAN HAVE A PETITION TO CREATE 5,000 PETITION JOBS!!!!!!!!!!!! It's economic recovery guaranteed!

Well said NRHAreiner.

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