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        08-10-2013, 08:23 PM
      #21
    Weanling
    Yes, if I bred her I would keep the foal. And yes, I think you are right about getting a good list of accomplishments. She's got plenty of baby producing ability years, do I think I am going to wait a few years before I consider breeding her again. If I feel I am going to need a prospect before then, I will either buy a colt or find a broodmare to buy/lease that is registered. I'd like to buy a good registered aqha ir apha filly someday. By that's sometime in te future.
         
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        08-12-2013, 03:33 AM
      #22
    Foal
    Here's my take on it. If your mare has good conformation, good disposition, is healthy and is good at her chosen sport/activity, then it is okay to consider breeding. The responsible thing to do would be to breed her to a breed of stud that would allow half-breed registrations, such as Arabians. Although you may intend to keep the foal, it isn't possible to predict the future so at least this way you may be helping to ensure a better future for a registered foal.
         
        08-12-2013, 07:11 AM
      #23
    Weanling
    Personally, I would breed my grade mare. My mare is actually a purebred QH, I know all of her bloodlines... the only reason she hasn't been registered was because her mama died before her mama's registration papers were acquired... I'm looking more into the situation this morning, but as it looks so far; she can't be registered.

    I'm personally impressed with her bloodlines, her temperament is a dream, conformation is beautiful... I'd go for it. I may not be able to register the foal in a breed association, but as long as it's kept for a personal horse I see absolutely no harm in doing so... it's not like I'm running a huge breeding farm or claiming to have or aiming towards high quality show horses.

    You can't ride papers... but usually you can't sell a horse without them... unless they've done something impressive. To each his own. If you have a good mare you know a little about, at least her background, I see no harm.
         
        08-12-2013, 12:08 PM
      #24
    Trained
    As long as you take the time and/or the expense to train a grade horse ensure is is super broke someone will buy him.
    Most horse owners do not show or breed. They simply ride, drive, or do some other activity with the horse.
    I have rescued several horses in the last 10 years and everyone has found a good home .
    The more they were trained the better the price.
    I sold one gelding for 3,000$ after sending him to the trainers to learn the playday patterns . I used him for playdays for about 5 months and sold him as soon as I announced he was for sale. Shalom
         
        08-12-2013, 01:30 PM
      #25
    Weanling
    Ok. Thanks y'all. I'm still not sure if I will or won't. She needs to lose 100lbs or more and prove herself to be a good horse before I decide on anything. I am going to finish breaking her in and go from there. If I do breed her it would be to a quarter horse or appendix quarter horse. I guess I could register with the half quarter horse registry.
         
        08-12-2013, 02:29 PM
      #26
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by Barrelracingllamalover    
    Ok. Thanks y'all. I'm still not sure if I will or won't. She needs to lose 100lbs or more and prove herself to be a good horse before I decide on anything. I am going to finish breaking her in and go from there. If I do breed her it would be to a quarter horse or appendix quarter horse. I guess I could register with the half quarter horse registry.
    There's a Half Quarter Horse registry?

    I wouldn't breed a grade but then I wouldn't breed anything. I wouldn't buy from any 'Grampa's stud, cousin's mare' type breeding program either.
         
        08-12-2013, 02:51 PM
      #27
    Showing
    Dba, that's true that even grades have value with the right training, heck, I turned down $5K for my mustang, but there are already just so many horses needing homes....and without knowing what her bloodlines are or the type of stock she came from, there's no way to know if she's an adequate respresentation of her breeding.

    Buying/owning/rescueing a grade horse is one thing because you can look at them and take them for what they are....breeding is already a big enough crap-shoot even when you do know what to expect.
         
        08-12-2013, 04:38 PM
      #28
    Green Broke
    Logically? No. I does not make sense, Unless you have the ideal mare with an incredible show record and an equally impressive stallion, its not worth it from a logical standpoint. The risk to mare is significant, as are the chances of a less than ideal or even crippled foal. I have seen conformational train wrecks come out of incredible parents. Even if you discount those, for a mare owner breeding for one foal, the costs of stud fee and vet bills are far higher than the cost of purchasing a foal already on the ground, where you can evaluate temperament, conformation and athletic ability.

    However, if you really want a foal, then I would consider if the mare is very well built, has a great temperament, fantastic conformation, and is talented in your chosen discipline. If yes, then you can find a complementary stallion, and go ahead.

    My mare is in foal for 2014, and I like her enough I would have bred her regardless of her papers.
         
        08-12-2013, 05:34 PM
      #29
    Weanling
    Yes they have a half quarter horse registry. But they have a registry for everything now, which I think is stupid. I saw a registry for half Arab half mustangs a while back.

    It's not so much that I want a foal, heck, honestly I don't like having baby animals, as a barrel racer, I'm very competitive and I think bred to a complimentary stud she would throw very competitive foals. I do like to have my competition horse from the time they are very young for the simple reason that I can bring them up and train them the way I want. I agree, there are so many grade horses out tere that aren't as well off. If I can find a reg broodmare of equal or better quality than this mare, then I will not even consider breeding her except for maybe mules, for the simple reason that I do pack trips and what not and a couple mules as easy keeping and massive as this mare is would be priceless as pack mules. But right now, as things stand, I am going to take some of the advice y'all have given me and wait and see if her foals are going to be worth it.

    On another note, what if you had one that came out of all registered stock and you knew the bloodlines on her but she just hadn't gotten registered? Would that change anything? Just curious, I don't have one at the time being. I'd really like to get into just pure registered stock someday, but I would want to start with the best I could lay hands on from the start, and that going to cost money so that's a while off.
         
        08-12-2013, 05:36 PM
      #30
    Weanling
    And by foals being worth it, I mean is she going to be as good a horse ad I think she is going to be and be worth breeding. I retread and realized I didn't make that as clear as I wanted.
         

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