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post #1 of 20 Old 07-20-2011, 11:42 PM Thread Starter
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Breeding to a Heterozygous stallion for 2013

Ok, I've thought about breeding to a stallion who is AQHA/APHA/PtHA registered, and is a buckskin frame overo. He's negative for the frame overo and is heterozgous for the Creme gene. I'm wondering as to what he'll give off most likely. They said 50% chance of buckskin and 50% color markings on solid mares. My mare has sorrel, bay, red dun, and gray in her linage. I'm thinking along the lines of Buckskin or maybe a palomino? I'm not good at using a calculator. Any suggestions?
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post #2 of 20 Old 07-21-2011, 12:08 AM
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How is he a buckskin frame if he's negative for frame? Is he perhaps sabino instead, or something else? Do you have a photo?
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yes, I just pulled a statement off his website they made.

"tested No Heterozygous for the Cream Gene, No Heterozygous for the Frame Overo Gene"

Did I read this wrong?

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I have no idea what they mean by "no heterozygous," but I think they're trying to say that he actually IS a frame frame carrier. Which means that your mare should be tested to be on the safe side, so there is no chance of an OLWS foal.

Must say I'm not entirely sold on his conformation, though.



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Yah, I had seen those pictures and I questioned that very much on his conformation too. For those pictures he was a yearling at that point, but I'll have to look more closely. I'll have to ask about the "No" this and that because that's what I thought it had said. But they also have him on their other website too. Secrethillsranch.com
I'll be asking about the OLWS too. Thanks!
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Well, he looks like he has frame, and he definitely has cream, yet he's "no heterozygous" for both. So there you go. How old is he now? I understand not having a show record yet, but the one they have up on his website is pitiful, and from a marketing standpoint, it'd be better not to have one posted at all.
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I read it as he is a frame carrier{OLWS positive} & by his pics he looks it & probably Splash overo too.You should be testing your mare that she is negative for OLWS/frame
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Man that is a bad photo for a yearling. Seriously!!! I have a photo of my boy at a year old and he looks way better than that! No horrid pot belly no weird angles. I het he is Probs a different breed but not by far. My boy is only a qh!!! And he has impeccable lineage and photos for all to see. The least they could do is to put proper side shots of him standing up and square even for a yearling etc. I'm sorry but in my opinion he hasn't "sold" me on him at all! I read it as he is frame and creme so definitely test your mare before you breed to him if you are that keen on him but personally I wouldn't. How old is he? My stallion won't be standing at public stud untill he is at least 4. He is serving mg mares this year paddock breeding (only two yo and two mares to serve only) so he can get his genes out for display. I would be worried if they are putting him up for public service even to limited mares if he is my stallions age..... Even at four my boy will have limited servings to outside mares Probs till he is 6at least to keep his sperm fertile and not stressed to quickly!
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I agree, get your mare tested before you do anything, please. :)

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They just bought him before he was shown so they needed a better picture that much I do agree. He's currently two. He's not breeding till next year and he is only breeding up to 5 mares for a while. Its only AI and ship semen due to safety. Again, i'll ask for his results tonight. I haven't been on the computer, but I see what everyone is saying about OWLS/frame. I'm wanting to see what he's giving off before anything. Getting his results of those two main points are my priority. Thanks everyone!
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