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    05-17-2010, 07:07 AM
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Have just realised, as a Shetland pony breeder of some 4 years, that we, as a Stud, are totally unprepared for anything that might go wrong. Luckily my business partner, has a lot of knowledge and wades in to help out if needed but we don't have any emergency drugs, foal milk or anything to hand.

A friend has just lost her foal, it stopped sucking, and the vet did nothing - I mean absolutely nothing, not even come out to see the animal. To me, this just shows how little they value our equine stock.

So, I have decided to start, in conjunction with the National Foaling Bank, to keep emergency supplies of Foal milk and a colostrum replacement for other breeders that might need it. We can be contacted 24 hours a day and will let anyone who is in need have our supplies - which they will pay us for. It is not a money-making scheme at all but the one way we can try and help folk who are bodging about rather than waiting for Tescos to open first thing to see if there is any goat's milk about.

In our own personal first aid bag, we will have the injection Oxytocin and some Dopram as well. Can you suggest anything else we should have? Our first aid bag will not be available to anyone but ourselves.

I am tempted next year to get one of our mares bled, her plasma centrifuged down and stored in the freezer just in case. Apparently if a foal is under 4 hours old, you can feed this back to it and it does alot of good. This would be for our own Stud use.

We will also have a go at milking any mares that would co-operate. If you don't hear from me again, just reckon we got our heads kicked in.

I suppose it will be very interesting to see, after we have told everyone, if anyone bothers to take us up on this. Failing that, we did our best and no one can do more.

The vets do not stock any foal milk or colostrum replacement which I find extraordinary considering there are over 100 studs here.

I am looking at a variety of replacement foal colostrum and would be very interested to hear reviews of any of the products. We would probably only stock one type:-

FoalStim Foal Probiotic and Colostrum 13.29
FoalStim Foal Probiotic & Colostrum - 13.29
Free p&P if in letter first class bag

Equi-Col Foal Colostrum 36.33
http://www.vets-drugs-direct.com/pro...=155&P_ID=1033
P&P 1.85 mainland

Col-Late Whole Colostrum for Foals
34.25
http://www.vets-drugs-direct.com/pro...=155&P_ID=1032

Net-Tex WHole Colostrum for Foals
31.99
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    05-19-2010, 10:38 AM
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Hi. I am retired from large breeding farm. We used to freeze colostrum whenever we could, if a mare had a huge bag at birth, or something happened to her foal. It's only pure colostrum for the first 18 hours or so, then it's a mix of colostrum and milk which is also helpful for another day. We kept lots of it in the freezer. Whenever others were desperate, we would give them some and make them promise to replace it whenever they could. We gave out maybe a dozen bottles. NOONE ever replaced it. So if you do this, be sure to save some for yourself ONLY.

I don't know what you can get over there, but we have the most wonderful milk replacer (not colostrum, but super helpful after the first day). It's called Buckeye Mare's Milk. It has a huge advantage over all the other commercial ones. It's a powder, you mix it in cold water, not warm, and once mixed, it keeps for 24 hours. It tastes so yummy that foals LOVE it and will quickly learn to drink from a bucket. NO BOTTLES. We would start with a bowl you could tip since at first they only grab the edge. But they learn fast to drink it.

Another emergency idea is IV fluids. You can't do the IV route, but you can inject them subQ under the skin to keep a baby from dying of dehydration. You would have to do this every few hours and it takes a lot. But it's better than seeing one die.

Frozen hyperimmune serum is available here but it is expensive. It keeps a long time in the freezer though. But it has to be given IV.

Your idea of mare serum in the first 4 hours by mouth is interesting. Had not heard of that one. Thanks
     

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