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post #1 of 39 Old 01-05-2011, 01:47 PM Thread Starter
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Breeding Mediocre Horses

Anyone who knows me, or has talk to me about breeing horses, knows that I am against breeding unregistered horses (for several reasons; it's a great way to trace and research genetic issues such as herda and HyPP amoung other reasons which I won't get into right now) I also don't believe in breeding just because you want to try your hand at raising and training a foal. I think you should educate yourself before even considering breeding your mares. I think there is some basic conformation qualities and NEED to be met before a horse should be bred, along with a certian disposition and ability.

Now, with that being said, I also think that some people get way to carried away about what they consider good breeding stock. I don't think that EVERY horse needs to have a champion/proven sire and dam. I don't think that stallions with a $5000+ stud fee are the only ones that should still have their junk. I don't think that every horse that is breed needs to have perfect confromation. Good conformation is in the eye of the beholder and and almost every horse who has gone out and been used in it's discipline of choice and has done well has at least a few conformation faults.

IF this was the case and only proven mares and stallions were breed how many of YOU would be able to afford to purchase a horse? How many of you would have the horse that you have today?
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3, we would have 3 out of the 11 horses we have now, and two of them have disabilities.
And only two of them would be sound to be worked. I wouldnt have my most favorites Roothie, Shaffiek, and Poe. And that is a sad thought.
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I wouldn't have any horses.

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post #4 of 39 Old 01-05-2011, 02:48 PM
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They would probably all be in the $10000 price range and noone could afford them save for the wealthy retired and the upper middle and upper class.

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I wouldn't have any of my horses.

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I would not be able to have any :(

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I would have all the horses I have today.

All of them were bred for a reason, all bar one of them have champions and supreme champions in their blood lines as well as serious international level horses/ponies (pride is history unknown as he was bought in an auction but you can see the quality in him, he was not randomly bred). All of them are near as I can get to a perfect conformation, what faults they do have are very minor and only slight! (pride for example has a slightly long back, in a mare it would not be concidered as long, but for a gelding it is).

I do believe that you should only breed the very best of each breed and aim to produce top class horses, that way if you dont get the top class horse oyu want to breed, what you have bred is quite nice, will have good conformation and will have a good future.

Conformation is not just in the eye of the beholder, a poor conformation will affect action, soundness, longevity, chance of injury and ability to preform.
It is the main reason I will NEVER have a horse who is back at the knee as it puts massive strain on the tendons in the lower leg, can cause early artheritis in the knees and affect the action of the horse. The strain on the tendons makes them incredibly prone to tendon injuries.

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Even breeding the best to the best will result in horses that will not make the grade as far as the true best are considered.

Breeding good quality horses does not mean that the average person would not be able to have a horse.

My pony is by a really fancy stallion. I am guessing the stud fee was far from cheap. She did not cost me an arm and a leg.

All of my horses are registered, none were crazy expensive. Actually, one was free.

There really is no reason to breed unless you are trying to make the breed better. This is true of dogs, cats, horses, rats, etc.
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Even in the best of breeding programs there will always be horses who won't pass muster and will be mediocre, or not suited for the discipline for which they were bred.

These horses are always sold for very little, or even given away.

To say that if you deliberately breed only top notch horses nobody would be able to afford one is kind of a stretch, and not anywhere near the truth.

Horses should always be bred with an eye to their futures, and not because someone thinks their fugly but sweet mare needs to be bred, or that badly conformed but purty colored stallion needs to reproduce.

If you're not striving to better the breed, regardless of whether or not it has papers, then you're doing the horse industry a grave disservice. That goes for all breeders, big and small.
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[QUOTE=Speed Racer;877704]

To say that if you deliberately breed only top notch horses nobody would be able to afford one is kind of a stretch, and not anywhere near the truth.

Horses should always be bred with an eye to their futures, and not because someone thinks their fugly but sweet mare needs to be bred, or that badly conformed but purty colored stallion needs to reproduce.


I am not saying this at all. Most of the people that come on here asking "Should I breed my horse?" Shouldn't. But there is a select few who have horses who crossed with their stallion of choice WILL better the breed. But still, because "they don't come from champion stock," or "They don't have a very nice head," they are not considered good breeding stock.

I spend a lot of money getting my horses in foal and even if the resulting foal doesn't make it as a performance horse I am not going to sell if for next to nothing. I will make the money that I have into getting the foal there and even that is too much for most people who own horses to be able for afford.

If you looked at todays top producing sires how many do you think should have been culled based on conformation alone? A good deal I would assume.
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