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        11-01-2013, 05:34 PM
      #51
    Foal
    Db- Thank you! :) I appreciate what you've said.

    Demonwolf- I believe I am quite good at putting myself in "hypothetical shoes." I'm not saying I can completely go there, but I can understand what it would be like, to an extent...but I get what you're saying. :P You can only go so far as to hypothetical situations -- and in reality, it's usually different.

    EliRose- no, you didn't offend me. :)

    CandyCanes- I will be sure that read that, soon (just not now because I have to go, lol)

    TessaMay- "It seems like all you want to see is the fun of having a baby, so in your mind everyone else must be wrong and not understand." I don't know if this is meant to be derogatory or not, but I just want to know that is not what I think. I understand what everybody is trying to say, and I know you all aren't wrong. I believe some of the points brought up may not be relevant or matter in my case (SOME, not all), but I don't disregard them completely, even if it sounds like it.

    To all- I will be speaking to a vet about this before I make a decision. I appreciate the criticism, because it honestly will help (even if some of it is completely irrelevant -- I understand that I only have one horse, but Destiny has as good a chance at having no complications as any other horse, and a fear of losing her, as sad as it may be, would not change my mind). And just for the record, nobody is offending me for any reason whatsoever. I don't scare easily, and it's even harder to offend me. ;)
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        11-01-2013, 10:04 PM
      #52
    Yearling
    What I don't understand is why you would consider breeding a mare with a condition that is more than likely genetic and getting a foal that will have a considerably shorter life span. That doesn't make sense to me, and even if that's a small chance, it would be too much of a chance for me to call a responsible decision.
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        11-01-2013, 10:13 PM
      #53
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ArabianGirl27    

    To all- I will be speaking to a vet about this before I make a decision. I appreciate the criticism, because it honestly will help (even if some of it is completely irrelevant -- I understand that I only have one horse, but Destiny has as good a chance at having no complications as any other horse, and a fear of losing her, as sad as it may be, would not change my mind). And just for the record, nobody is offending me for any reason whatsoever. I don't scare easily, and it's even harder to offend me. ;)
    Thank you for at least reading and thinking about what is being said, and for not starting flouncing when people are less than positive, a very mature attitude on life.
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        11-02-2013, 12:42 AM
      #54
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Golden Horse    
    Thank you for at least reading and thinking about what is being said, and for not starting flouncing when people are less than positive, a very mature attitude on life.
    I agree with golden horse on this . I think both young people who have posted in this thread have good outlooks on life. Eli Rose and Arabian girl I for one am happy you are members of this forum. Shalom
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        11-02-2013, 02:57 PM
      #55
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by ArabianGirl27    
    TessaMay, to me, she is breeding quality. And apparently (as I have been told, anyway) a crossbred foal from her would be worth about $5000; a purebred, $20,000. .
    Im sorry, but how is a foal from an allergic okish quality mare worth $20,000?! Has she a performance record? From what I read, you have a young mare who's ridden days are numbered by a medical condition with no known cause, you want to breed her to either a quarter horse or paint for colour even though that's a gamble and are praying that the foal is coloured and doesnt inherit a genetic predispotion?

    I would rather have my money on 32 black in vegas then your mare breeding a foal worht $20k. Sorry to be blunt but she has rather a few conformational faults and without the medical conditions I wouldnt be breeding her. Sorry/
         
        11-02-2013, 03:18 PM
      #56
    Foal
    Golden Horse and db- thank you! :3

    DeliciousD- my horse isn't worth $20k; I've been told her foals would be (untrained) because of her pedigree and her sire's performance record. This was also before we found out she had allergies, I forgot to mention that part before.
    And you're close, I want to breed her to a QH or Paint because I'm hoping the foal inherits a calm, laid-back attitude (and I like stocky horses...) and colour is just a bonus for Paints. :P
         
        11-02-2013, 11:00 PM
      #57
    Foal
    We have a 2YO Arabian whose sire, dam, and maternal sister are all National Champions in performance. So it's safe to say he's a pretty high quality prospect and we thought we could sell him as a youngster and make lots of money. We asked a BNT what he was worth and she said we couldn't ask any more than $10,000 until he's under saddle and proves he has some talent.

    The market for Arabian prospects isn't good right now. The only young Arabians that would possibly sell for $20,000+ now are the freakishly typy halter babies that are very rare even when you're breeding two very high quality Arabians together. Last year on an online auction I bought a nice young Arab/Saddlebred cross whose sire is a National Champion with a $4,500 stud fee. I bought him for $300.

    So it's a pretty tough time to be breeding even the best Arabians unless you're willing to be in it for the long haul and wait until the foal is under saddle and really showing talent in something. I would also hesitate to breed a mare that may pass on her health issue.
         
        11-03-2013, 08:09 AM
      #58
    Foal
    I own a broodmare that also has allergy from dust. She has had 5 foals, none of them has any respiratory issues - oldest of them is now 9 years old. As I don`t doubt that there may be cases when this kind of allergy MAY be passed on, I think that that possibility is way lower that 50% as someone mentioned earlier. I know lots of mares that has allergies while their offsprings doesn`t.
    Speaking of mare with respiratory issues while being pregnant - in my case, Smaile`s breathing was even better while being pregnant and about a week before and after foaling, she breathed as a completely healthy horse. She also has never had any complications in foaling.
    With this I wanted to say that allergy is not what should stop you from breeding a mare, unless your vet has confirmed that this can and will be passed on a foal.
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        11-04-2013, 04:42 PM
      #59
    Foal
    Tranquilo- yeah, okay. XD Personally, I wouldn't put a price on her foals anyway, because my full intention is to keep the foal. If I happened to breed her a second time to another purebred Arabian (because I'd love to do that and carry on the purebred Arabian in her), I'd be keeping that foal too, IF I did that (but if I did, it would be at least a few years in the future). The prices of horses are down a lot right now anyway...it's hard enough to GIVE a horse away. I wouldn't be breeding if I was going to sell. :P

    Smaile- Thank you for the input! I'm hoping Destiny will be one of those cases! XD
         
        11-04-2013, 04:47 PM
      #60
    Foal
    Oh, and SunnyDraco- I never mentioned anything earlier, but I'm going to now. XD Thank you, about the genetics...that she's Ee and Aa. I never thought about figuring it out for myself before... for some reason, I never considered taking her parents' colours into consideration. XD (Then again, I only found out her dam's colour a couple of weeks ago -- I put it on AllBreed myself.)

    But anyway, I looked at the possibilities myself and saw that you're right -- she's Ee and Aa. That's cool, that we could figure it out without actually having her tested. Now I've been explaining it to people and everyone I know is now utterly confused, lol. Gotta love genetics. XD
         

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