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post #1 of 16 Old 01-11-2012, 10:43 AM Thread Starter
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Smile Breeding my Mare......colour help

I was given a mare (Ariel) for breeding two years ago but she was not very well kept by her previous owner...she is now back up to health and would like to breed her this year, she is not rideable due to previous injuries, she had a very good showjumping career before that *she has been cleared by the vet for breeding and had her swabs*

she has had a foal previously, she has a sweet temperment and good confirmation. She is now 14..she is a grey mare (was a black foal)

I know the foal can be any colour.....but any suggestion what colour i should breed with her to avoid Cheshnut?

I have found a lovely white & palomino stallion, who is slightly bigger boned than her.......any ideas what colours would be produced :) many thanks

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post #2 of 16 Old 01-11-2012, 10:46 AM
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First of all, has the mare been declared breeding sound? A previous injury that prevents her being ridden might have an effect on how she copes with being pregnant.

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she has been fully cleared for breeding by my vet :)
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i will address the colours rather than the to breed or not to breed.

she is black under the grey so you need to know if she carries a red gene. if she does then a pali stud would not be a good choice to avoid getting a chestnut. pali is chestnut with a cream gene and therefore can only give the foal a copy of the red gene. if your mare carries red then it's 50% that the foal will pop out red based. the stallion has a 50% chance of passing on cream so half the red based foals resulting from this cross will be pali and that leaves you with a one in four chance of chestnut.

if, however, you breed her to a stud that is genetically tested to be homozygous for black, you will never get a chestnut foal.

then depending on how many copies of the grey gene your mare has, the foal has either 50% or 100% chance of greying out.
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What's so bad about a Chestnut? I have 3 greys and a palomino, and I would DIE for a chestnut. There is no bad color for a good horse....

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Its just a colour I have never been keen on....it wouldn't bother be to be honest if I had a cheshunt, the foal is for keeps. I have thought about breeding gone through the pros and cons, if she is worth breeding and so on. I believe she will produce a good all rounder and the stallion has very good breeding and a nice temperment. I have my first foal here that I bred from retired mare he is now five.. I am not breeding for the sake of having a foal..they are hard work literally blood sweat and tears lool

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What's so bad about a Chestnut? I have 3 greys and a palomino, and I would DIE for a chestnut. There is no bad color for a good horse....

You can have mine. Thats enough ginger to spread round EVERYONE ;D

Subbing.. interested, I never figured out how this colour thing works!
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post #8 of 16 Old 01-11-2012, 11:55 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks blue eyed pony. I don't understand the colour thing either! Lol my first foal was dark dapple grey! Was a nice suprise :)
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Any black passed stallion that doesn't carry the red gene, so no pallies or camellos ect

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post #10 of 16 Old 01-11-2012, 12:10 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks :) how do you learn about the genes I find it all so interesting and slightly complex? Googled it but comes up with a million things
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