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        07-16-2013, 04:33 PM
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    Thought maybe this site might help some since there's over 2,000 warmbloods for sale on it
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        07-16-2013, 07:13 PM
      #62
    Yearling
    Ive already seen every single warmblood on there. Hahahaha that's where I went first to look for horses. I've scanned those pages time and time again.
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        07-16-2013, 09:29 PM
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    Do you possibly have any other name that is tied into the horse? I can't find anything on him. And I also got thinking, there are a number of big warmblood shows down in Florida. I know of a farm up here in ontario that shows down in Florida... So ur horse really could have come from anywhere
         
        07-16-2013, 11:30 PM
      #64
    Yearling
    Yeah I know. I've almost given up! Seems my last hope is if I can get a DNA test on him... And no, that's his only known name. She said that the slaughter house owner told her that he came with that name and it was ironic because... Ya know... Meat cleaver... :( so sad
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        07-17-2013, 01:13 PM
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    Yeah... :/

    Hey, do you know which slaughter house it was? If there's a name for it maybe you could trace him through the name somehow. Like, see which auction houses are nearest to it
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        07-17-2013, 06:22 PM
      #66
    Yearling
    No I don't, and she can't remember the name. :/ But! I sent more pictures and a copy of his current coggins to the AWS, and he does not match any stolen or missing descriptions, so we are absolutely sure everything happened by person. So that rules that out, yay!
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        07-17-2013, 06:31 PM
      #67
    Foal
    Over here if you sell your horse to slaughterhouse, you must give horse`s passport to them as well, so they could make a record in horse database that the horse has deceased. Could it be, that the horse you own in AWS records is long dead and because of that nobody can recognize him there.?
    I guess that the best chance for you is to contact the slaughterhouse - they have to have some document of your horse. Or at least a name of previous owner. USA is too big for you to find his breeder just by his picture...
         
        07-17-2013, 07:18 PM
      #68
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by smaile    
    Over here if you sell your horse to slaughterhouse, you must give horse`s passport to them as well, so they could make a record in horse database that the horse has deceased. Could it be, that the horse you own in AWS records is long dead and because of that nobody can recognize him there.?
    I guess that the best chance for you is to contact the slaughterhouse - they have to have some document of your horse. Or at least a name of previous owner. USA is too big for you to find his breeder just by his picture...
    In the US horses aren't passported; if the horse isn't registered with a breed association there is no paper trail on them, and even if they are registered, the paper trail can easily be lost if one owner doesn't agree to include it in the sale. Since breed registries are private organizations, there's no requirement to keep them up to date with current owner information or even notify them if the horse dies. The most likely scenario is that AWS has him in their files with some person from years ago listed as his owner still.

    ETA- Sounds like the DNA test is the only real way to identify him. I'm impressed that AWS will do a DNA match- kudos to them!
         
        07-18-2013, 09:23 AM
      #69
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by verona1016    
    In the US horses aren't passported; if the horse isn't registered with a breed association there is no paper trail on them, and even if they are registered, the paper trail can easily be lost if one owner doesn't agree to include it in the sale. Since breed registries are private organizations, there's no requirement to keep them up to date with current owner information or even notify them if the horse dies. The most likely scenario is that AWS has him in their files with some person from years ago listed as his owner still.

    ETA- Sounds like the DNA test is the only real way to identify him. I'm impressed that AWS will do a DNA match- kudos to them!
    That`s a shame. But still, shouldn`t they have that people`s, who gave this horse to slaughterhouse, name, phone number etc in their records.?
    It just seems a bit unbelievable, that there is a possibility to make DNA testing - does breed associations keep DNA examples on every horse there.? As far as I know DNA testing only works if you have something to compere the sample with.
         
        07-18-2013, 10:25 AM
      #70
    Yearling
    If I were in your shoes, I'd quit investigating. I'd be worried I'd learn my horse was stolen, and he would get sent back to the original owner of record.

    Good luck, chickadee.
         

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