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post #1 of 5 Old 11-22-2009, 01:17 PM Thread Starter
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Breeding option

Depending on how Deja does next summer in the showring I have been playing with the idea of maybe breeding her in 2011, I know it's kind of far off yet, but I like to plan things out. So I saw an add for a stallion that is only 20 minutes away from me. The reason I would like a more local stallion is that I would want to go and do a "meet and greet" and see how he acts. Personality is bigger for me at this point than breeding since baby will be retained by me and I don't plan to do any big shows at any point, maybe just local stuff. Would it be asking too much to come out and see the stallion? I actually really like his conformation, but I would like opinions on it and his pedigree. Since Deja is built more Polish I think that he would "refine" her baby. If not him, I will keep looking, and I will probably check out that Payback program as well before I make a descision, but like I said I'd like a more local stallion if any of you can find more stally's that would compliment Deja in the Rockford Il area with a stud fee of $1,500 or less I would appreciate it. Here are some videos of him and his pedigree. Let me know what you think of him. Oh! I would maybe think about getting into smaller endurance races too. Thanks in advance!

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post #2 of 5 Old 11-22-2009, 04:55 PM
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i like him. I like the color babies he gives and i like how he moves! I think you should ask to go down to meet and greet! Good luck!
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post #3 of 5 Old 11-22-2009, 05:06 PM
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it shouldn't be too much to ask the owner if you could go out to meet him. They should be willing to let you see him before hand. If they don't, be very cautious.

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I like him as well, but I would like to see more conformation photos and/or video-- him standing and getting a clear view of each side, front, and rear views. If he is close by, I would definitely try to see him in person before breeding to him.

Since he is 11 years old, there should be a few of his offspring starting to be trained under saddle by now. I would want to see more of how his foals are growing up. The stallion himself is a nice middle of the road horse to me in both conformation and movement (basically correct, no great extremes) but how he sires will be more important-- and you need more than cute baby photos to tell that.

Is there anything specific you want to see produced from your mare that this stallion will help with, either by reinforcing a trait you like in her, or hopefully improving a trait she might not be as strong in?

Aas far as color, I am a pushover for a nice glossy black, if everything else is there under the color, and he is pretty nice overall. The color he has produced (palomino, buckskin, tobiano pinto, etc.) would not be a factor to me at all, since in each case he had nothing to do with it-- the mares contributed the gene for each of those foals to be colored as they are.

Bred to your black mare, you could get either black or chestnut-- since both the stallion and your mare have produced chestnut it is proof by progeny that they carry the recessive "e". IIRC your odds for foal color with this mating would be 75% for black, 25% for chestnut.

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post #5 of 5 Old 11-23-2009, 06:15 PM Thread Starter
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EEEK! I would love a black baby!! But of course with my luck I would get the chestnut.....:) Hmmm. Things I'd like to see improved on my mare.... I'm biased, but I'll try my best here. First of all, she doesn't have great movement. It's just average. Then again, she is QUITE lazy, so that could be the issue too. I think her neck is good for her build, but I'd like something a tad archier. Hers is rather average, again. Her back legs. When she moves out her hocks are straight, but whenever she stops she always twists one of her feet outward and makes her look cow hocked. I don't know if that is just how she likes standing or what, but it doesn't look good. Other than that I do like my little lady, and I believe the stud is 14.3 as well so I am hoping that baby wouldn't be much bigger than that. Smaller is fine, I like little arabs, but bigger is not ideal. For the most part she is a good girl, the only issues she has are training issues, like with flyspray(her mortal enemy, along with the farrier)otherwise she's a little doll. And smart too. As I see Mana growing up I am looking foreward to this possibility even more. But I will wait and let her have some time off from babies for a year or so before I do this, no rush. But I think that if I were to do this, it would be her last foal. By then she'd be(if I wait till 2011 to breed her) 12 when the baby is born. Four babies in a lifetime would be good enough. Thanks for your input!!! I will continue to look at other stallys in the mean time, but he will definintly be my top pick unless I find someone amazing!!

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