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post #1 of 15 Old 04-04-2010, 09:33 PM Thread Starter
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Breeding Quality?

Name: Berdi Inez
Age: 18
Breed: Quarter Horse
Color: Buckskin
Height: 15hh
Discipline: Western Pleasure/Trail Riding
Personality: Quiet, calm and very willing to please. No vices and loves people.
Accomplishments: Excellent on trails, general pleasure riding.

Now - I definitely am not planning on breeding Berdi. At 18 and being a maiden I would not want to breed her. She is registered and comes from good breeding but I don't have her papers as the people that gave her to me lost them.

I also am not sure on her conformation. Please critique her and tell me what you like about her for breeding and what you do not. I don't know a lot about this so I'm really interested. Also, what type of a stallion would fix her confo problems? This is all hypothetical as I'm not breeding her but I'm really interested. Thanks!

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post #2 of 15 Old 04-05-2010, 06:21 PM
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I would breed her if I where you...I know she's almost 19 and all, but she seems still in great health. For her comformation, Berdi looks like an average quarter horse to me! What would you use the foal for? Keep it? Sell it? Use it for compitions? If so, what kind? That would be another factor to see what kind of stallion you'd want. Nice horse!
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Thanks! She is a wonderful mare and in really good health! However I'm not wanting to breed her for reasons I stated below - it is just hypothetical. And I want to learn lots about conformation. But if she were younger, I had the money and experience, had her papers and knew more on confo I would consider breeding her!

If that was the case.... I would definitely keep the foal! Probably train it for trail riding and pleasure riding, just like Berdi is. I wouldn't be really doing showing, mainly for my own pleasure. I guess I would probably want a Quarter Horse stud as well.
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I can't really say much about her conformation, those photos are at the wrong angles. I can say that her throatlatch is very thick, as is her neck in general. Her neck is short and also ties in very low, which is pretty undesireable. She has a very plain head, and I can't really say much more because of the angle of the photo. I personally would not breed this mare. She is just your average run of the mill grade QH, and her best attribute(without knowing her peronality) is her color. IMO average horses should not be bred, because the point of breeding is to better the breed and make each generation better than the last. And that simply cannot be achieved by breeding average horses. Don't get me wrong, she is very cute and I certainly wouldn't turn her away from my barn. I just wouldn't breed her. Another contributing factor is her age, and being a maiden. If she had been bred before it would be slightly different, but at that age maidens have a very hard time conceiving and carrying a foal to term.

EDIT because I thought of more: The fact that she doesn't have any accomplishments other than being a trail horse(nothing wrong with that!), and she is grade. Granted, if she had some amazing bloodlines and had some big accomplishments, it would also be slightly different. I think some big accomplishments and excellent bloodlines can overrun a select few conformation flaws, like maybe being cowhocked or having a plain head. With the way the horse market is right now I personally think that only the best of the best should be breeding.

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I can't really say much about her conformation, those photos are at the wrong angles. I can say that her throatlatch is very thick, as is her neck in general. Her neck is short and also ties in very low, which is pretty undesireable. She has a very plain head, and I can't really say much more because of the angle of the photo. I personally would not breed this mare. She is just your average run of the mill grade QH, and her best attribute(without knowing her peronality) is her color. IMO average horses should not be bred, because the point of breeding is to better the breed and make each generation better than the last. And that simply cannot be achieved by breeding average horses. Don't get me wrong, she is very cute and I certainly wouldn't turn her away from my barn. I just wouldn't breed her. Another contributing factor is her age, and being a maiden. If she had been bred before it would be slightly different, but at that age maidens have a very hard time conceiving and carrying a foal to term.

EDIT because I thought of more: The fact that she doesn't have any accomplishments other than being a trail horse(nothing wrong with that!), and she is grade. Granted, if she had some amazing bloodlines and had some big accomplishments, it would also be slightly different. I think some big accomplishments and excellent bloodlines can overrun a select few conformation flaws, like maybe being cowhocked or having a plain head. With the way the horse market is right now I personally think that only the best of the best should be breeding.
Come now..... don't sound so negative. Plus, how do you get Grade QH out of that? It says she's registered as a QH. How can she be a grade?
Please, make your posts sound nicer. Put a good thing or a compliment in it somewhere. Or do you have something against buckskin horse beause of the other thread for the stud? *coughsarcasmcough*
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To the OP, she is very pretty. She looks pretty sturdy, but thick. She has nice, sloping shoulders. Something about her confo makes me want to say her front end is a little heavyer or taller than the back, but I'm not sure.
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I personally actually love buckskins. I did say something nice, I said I actually like her and I wouldn't turn her away. I just wouldn't breed her. It irritates me to no end that people breed with no real intention. She is cute, I like her. And even if she was registered at one point, if the owner doesn't have the papers she is technically a grade. I'm not a color freak, yeah I like it but a good horse is never a bad color. I just see way, WAY too many babies at auctions going for little to nothing at all. Heck, last year my grandmother picked up a pretty, very well put together two year old for $60. Sixty dollars. All because someone wanted to have a baby. I can't really tell much else about her because the angles for the photos are all wrong. For a proper conformation assessment we need straight on photos of both sides, front and back standing on a flat(preferrably concrete) surface. LIke I said, I DO like her. But I wouldn't breed her. And that's an opinion, just like you have your own opinion.
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Thanks for the comments and advice on her conformation! Her neck is fairly thick, but she is too chubby at this point (I just got her and am going to be riding her lots) so maybe that has something to do with it? I don't know, I just thought maybe. I agree she probably is a fairly average QH. But as far as her personality - she is extremely calm, willing, quiet and sweet. She is very polite and gentle - I don't think you could improve much on her personality.

Even if her conformation were better however, her age would definitely worry me - and her being a maiden. I totally agree on that! That's a big reason why I wouldn't want her bred. I just wouldn't want to take the risk and would feel horrible if something happened to her or the foal.

I think I still would breed a horse that was maybe only used as a trail horse if they had good conformation and like you say would better the breed. Especially if I wanted another trail horse. Since I don't even show that wouldn't be a big thing for me.

Thunderhooves - thank-you! I think she's really pretty too. It could be her front is heavier set than her hind end, only thing is she is still overweight and maybe she just needs to shift some of it. Not really sure on that one!
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Please don't take anything I said as hurtful or harmful, I may be blunt but I am in no way mean. :) I do like her, just not as a broodie. And does she have a dorsal stripe? It looks like she does in the first pic, and if so she is more than likely a dun, not a buckskin. :)
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Not at all! I totally agree with you that she shouldn't be bred! I just was interested what you guys thought might be some of her good points to be bred if circumstances were much different. I don't know very much on conformation and I'm interested in learning all I can. :)

Yes, she does have a dorsal stripe - it confuses me as her former owners said she was buckskin. So that's what I've been calling her, but maybe she is a dun instead. Can only duns have dorsal stripes?

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Please don't take anything I said as hurtful or harmful, I may be blunt but I am in no way mean. :) I do like her, just not as a broodie. And does she have a dorsal stripe? It looks like she does in the first pic, and if so she is more than likely a dun, not a buckskin. :)
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