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    04-01-2010, 12:23 AM
  #21
Showing
^have to agree there. Very well-built and nice-looking =)
     
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    04-01-2010, 12:48 AM
  #22
Weanling
Name: My Kinda September ("Katie")
Age: 17
Breed: Appaloosa
Colour: solid chestnut
Height: 15 hands
Discipline: bred for Halter and All-Around-- producing All-Around and Western Pleasure
Personality: Affectionate, docile, but very smart, sometimes acts a bit "entitled"-- and she is
Accomplishments: Unshown herself; National Champion producer, Bronze Medallion producer, Superior producer, Multiple ROM producer.

Pedigree: My Kinda September Appaloosa

Katie, age 14



1999 gelding produced by Katie-- ApHC 2005 Year End National High Point Top Ten- Non Pro Trail, 2006 ApHC National Show Top Ten in Non-Pro Trail, 2006 CFAPHC High Point NonPro Trail and Junior Western Pleasure. Multi-ROM Earner including Halter, Trail, NP Showmanship, etc-- Superior in NP Trail.


2001 gelding produced by Katie-- ApHC 2003 Appaloosa National Champion 2 year Old Snaffle Bit Western Pleasure, NSBA Champion. 2x ROM Earner.


When I bought Katie she was already a proven broodmare. She was the last filly out of an elderly mare who had produced a Medallion winning and World Champion full sister to Katie 12 years prior. Katie was sired by an Appaloosa Hall of Fame stallion also in his elderly years. She was a surprise foal-- the elderly horsie couple were cohabitating in their twighlight years and the old mare had been barren for several years. One September morning the owner went out to feed and there was Katie.... being such a late foal and out of a treasured old mare, she was never fit up to show, but was a pet and then a broodmare from the start.

The foal in my avatar is her 2008 colt.
     
    04-01-2010, 08:41 AM
  #23
Green Broke
PaintsPwn- don't let Cowboy be fooled by Demi's advances. She is quite the flirt. A "horsey player" of sorts ;)
     
    04-01-2010, 11:38 AM
  #24
Yearling
Eventerdrew - We're pretty sure he plays for the same team, if ya know what I mean!

EastToWest: I like everything but how her neck ties in.
     
    04-01-2010, 01:55 PM
  #25
Weanling
Name: My Blueberry Story [Mya]
Age: 8
Breed: Paint
Height: 14.1 & 1/2 hh
Pedigree: n/a
Discipline: All rounderr
Personality: goofy, curious, LOVES to be scratched! LOVES PEOPLE!
Other: she was a rescue! And she was re-trained by myself
Accomplishments: Reserve pleasure pony champ. Cc fair :] and third at end of year awards for pony western horsemanship
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    04-01-2010, 09:37 PM
  #26
Yearling
Name: Slim N Fit
Age: 15
Breed: standardbred
Height: about 16hh
Pedigree:
Discipline: harness racehorse
Personality: not a lovey dovey horse, but gives 110% in a race
Other:slim is a heavy boned mare with lots of muscle. Bred and raced first in NZ then shiped to the US. Her racing career was ended when she was 9- during a race she tore her XYZ ligament. She was so determined my cousin who drives couldnt even pull her up to stop her. She finished the race like that, never looking back. The vets wanted to put her down on the spot saying she would never walk again. She proved them wrong and now is ok aside from the ankle did calcify and there is no flex in it. But she can ride and does not show a hint of lameness ever.
Accomplishments: lifetime record of 1:54:3 on a half mile track (mile long race)

Sorry I don't have any really good confo pics :(


     
    04-02-2010, 05:49 AM
  #27
Weanling
I do some 4-H F&S judging around here so this is kind of fun!

If my notes about angles, proportion, triangles and slopes are a little vague lemme know and I can email you with what I'm talking about highlighted.

Here's my thoughts of the run down

Brandi QH Mare
She is massively heavy on the hind end, very suited for reining. :) If I didn't know her age I might guess she’s younger and going through her "racecar" phase (when the legs grow at different rates and the high end is huge like a racecar.) The angle of her croup is too steep even for a QH. In the still picture her stifle looks off to me, it might just be the picture and an odd shadow. But it looks off.

She’s on grass so it's hard to see her hooves but the angles look kind of steep and it looks like she doesn't have much of a heel but her shoulder and hock angles are spot on.

She has a nice deep chest which also looks plenty broad. She has such a nice delicate head and neck! Despite we weak front-end her beautiful topline makes her nearly picture perfect!

I would breed her with a stud that could help round out that hip, and is evenly balanced on the front & hind end, so that you still get the heavy round QH butt matched but it's closer to standard.

Very nice horse that would be a nice producer if matched with the right stud.

Hickory QH Mare
Is she appendix breeding? She has a very TB head & neck. I would really like to see her standing with her front legs more forward b/c I think her pasterns look good but I can't tell of the same line is echoed in the hoof. It's odd she looks longer below the barrel than on her topline. It might be more in proportion than I'm seeing, and my eye is being thrown off by her withers. The withers are very nice, but typically on QH I like to see them more over the leg, but the set back withers also echoes a more recent TB lineage than you would typically see in QH.

She had a beautiful hindquarters normally I would also pick on her croup to dock angle but for some reason when it's combined with her roundness it really works. Also her hocks are a touch higher than the other reining horses displayed here and with reining you want the hocks and knees to be more level that matched with her hocks-in (mostly-right) toe-out there is room for improvement, but they are easier traits to breed out.

She looks like a much better put together package in the moving picture. She’s is definitely a little mover! All-in-all, she’s very pretty, and *IF* I were to breed her I would cross with stud, who is very typ-ie, and you would undoubtedly get a horse that not only can MOVE like yours but looks the part in-hand as well.


With Thanks QH
You can tell from those rear heals this horse reins! She has nice thick pasterns that for super active horses. She has a nice topline even with such far backs withers. Her barrel is leaner than I like in the 2nd picture but it looks good in the 1st and working pictures, so it could just be an off picture. Really with the exception of her zebra stripes, side effect of that beautiful color, she would be ideal to breed.

Deja Arab
Skipping. Pregnancy can throw in and off everything so I'm not even going to try!

Pearl
I would never bred this horse.

Gypsy TB/Han
Very nice legs! If I didn't know better I would have swore she was a Trakehner! For my hunters I like their front & hind quarters more even. With the weaker front end matched with the slightly high shoulder landing is going to be harder on her. How big around are her front legs, it's hard to tell with the boots. The boots seem to imply her legs are not delicate, but maybe more refined?

Her trotting triangles are perfect! She would make a great dressage horse. With some work her build would be MADE for the perfect piaffe! Over all nice, but easy on her landings. Cross country and hunters would be better but stadium jumping will definitely take its tool quicker. You can try to minimize the weaker conformation with preemptive supplements since she’s still developing. If those growth plates haven’t closed she'll be still developing tone over the next year or so.

I would breed her with a full warmblood. Maybe a nice Dutch Warmblood. The Dutch stock and your mares refined features would build that front shoulder up more while still keeping her solid but still feminine features.



After this one I got too tired!

So in total fairness I'll post my mare Julep tomorrow or over the weekend and ya'll can break her down and help me decide on the breed I want to cross her with to get a well-rounded sport horse.
     
    04-02-2010, 12:25 PM
  #28
Weanling
BigGirlsRideWarmbloods: Thanks! She doesn't have the best feet in the world (one is a little clubbed). Her club foot has actually been looking much better recently and we've been working to get her a better set of feet.

I think you did a fabulous critique though!

We're actually breeding her to Spooks Gotta Gun, hopefully in about a week.
     
    04-02-2010, 02:43 PM
  #29
Yearling
Stylish K, you know about his tendency to throw deaf babies right?

Anywho, here's my mare. I have awful pictures but bear with me. Haha

Name: R Mischievous Lady (Stevie)
Age: 9
Breed: JC Registered TB
Height: about 16.1hh
Pedigree: Out of Lady Lillie B by Roanoke - I believe she goes back to Native Dancer and War Admiral too so she's very well bred and on an outcross.
Discipline: Mostly hunters, getting into dressage/eventing. She also does trails and the occasional lesson =)
Personality: Smart as a whip, can take gross advantage of timid or novice riders/handlers, loves to make evil faces and then switch to being cute just for the fun of it.
Other: She's a little delicately made as far as depth and girth of bone in her legs but is adequate and she's got great spring and reach to her step when she's working through her back and is very solid through her body. I also don't have any good current confo shots and her confo has changed so much with muscling from last year it will look like two different horses. Anyways, she looks like a longer mare but her back is actually quite short in relation to her ginormous heartgirth and underline, for an FYI.




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    04-02-2010, 04:51 PM
  #30
Weanling
Nittany : Yep I do, I'm not overly worried about it. Some ways it might be more advantageous =P.
     

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