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post #1 of 27 Old 12-31-2012, 01:02 AM Thread Starter
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Breeding rant

Sorry need to get this off of my chest before the end of the year....right my beautiful Emmy



Bought because she is a daughter of my beautiful Ace, I love that line, but for my own personal use. While I had a deposit on her, someone else saw her and wanted to buy her because they wanted to breed her to a Friesian. Since I bought her home the same person has offered me that breeding again.

Now because I was debating again if I can ride 3 horses this summer another stud owner has offered their boys services, grrrrr not only doesn't it help, IF I bred her this year then it would be NEXT year before she really would be out of commission.

She may be well bred and pretty, and have a uterus but I am not at all sure I want to have a foal from her. The latest offer is to a youngster, only 2 years old, with no record, and IMHO to young to be breeding. IF and WHEN I want to have a foal, the first guy I would look at is



Not only handsome but been out there and done something..

OK Rant over, *Bah Humbug*

Emmy WILL be ridden this year, don't know what direction yet, may just enjoy pootling around on her, but we are going to have some fun.
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post #2 of 27 Old 12-31-2012, 01:06 AM
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Both beautiful! Well at least you have options! I know, not helping your rant
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Golden horse that is a nice stallion you posted a picture of.
If the 2 YO was well bred and complimented your mares edigree and conformation I would not overlook him.
I do prefer to breed to a stallion that has sired a few foals to get a good look at what I might expect.
But, if a good quality youngster was available I might breed to him before his price and demand went up.
I would only breed him to a mare that I own that had a few colts on the ground though. Unless his pedigree was that great and the possible rewards were great also. Shalom
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Thanks for the comment, I think she is beautiful, others obviously do as well, and I am flattered, I really am, but I can't think of a good reason for a Friesian Arab cross, doesn't really float my boat. The young stud, well why would you choose to breed two horses who haven't done anything? We are lucky up here, there are a few nice Arab stallions who get out there and strut their stuff at shows, so it is great to have a choice.
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That is a gorgeous arab!

People with true credibility and integrity don't need to tell other people how great they are.
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Golden horse that is a nice stallion you posted a picture of.
If the 2 YO was well bred and complimented your mares edigree and conformation I would not overlook him.
I do prefer to breed to a stallion that has sired a few foals to get a good look at what I might expect.
But, if a good quality youngster was available I might breed to him before his price and demand went up.
I would only breed him to a mare that I own that had a few colts on the ground though. Unless his pedigree was that great and the possible rewards were great also. Shalom
This is the trouble, Emmy is only 8, and although she was in the show ring when she was first trained, it blew her mind, so she has no track record to prove that she has anything worth passing on, and she is a maiden. The young man is pretty enough, but hasn't done anything, and at two isn't mature enough for me to make any judgements. IDK I just think that two is far to young to be starting a stallion in his breeding career, I like them to be used for something first, LOL make them think about work as their main job, and sex as a bonus

I do like this boy though https://www.facebook.com/pages/Empre...78068122244479 and I've heard good reports from 2 trainers who have worked with him, and a couple that have taken clinics where he has been and his conduct is great, means a lot to me.
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I see your poiint Goldenhorse and cannot fault the logic.
Yet I ahve known a few people that bred to unproven stallions at reduced cost and were rewarded when the stallion made it big.
Not saying that you should try this.
Only a handful of the mares here have seen the inside of an arena.
My stallion was never shown. I purchased him to compliment the mares here and because of the foals that I have seen he has sired.
He does have great conformation and an outstanding pedigree.
Now that he is here and has 8 foals due this spring I will be showing some of his offspring and a few of the mares.
Not aiming for Nationals but it will make it easier to market his foals and services.
Whatever you do good luck. That stallion and the mare should produce a wonderful foal. Marketable on the stallions accomplishments alone. Shalom
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Yeah I hope Empress (or his semen anyway) is about for a couple of years yet, if I decide to breed Emmy in the future I will be looking at him for sure, but by then there maybe some useful sons about, but he will stay on the mythical short list.

I was very tempted by an offer as a trial mare for a 3 year old in his first year a couple of years back. The stud was nice, the offer was fair, but she decided against it because I was looking to breed my Haffy mare, and liked her Arab stallion for her. I always have admired the owner for changing her mind and saying that she wanted to only use proven Arab mares for a couple of years so she could better evaluate his offspring.
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Just because a horse hasn't showed, doesn't mean they can't improve or add to the gene pool. Now, I don't mean go breeding anything - but if you have a well bred, well conformed horse, there isn't anything saying that they can't produce a Class A, Regional, or National Champion.
Emmy has that option if she's bred right and you invest, or sell the foal to someone who is, the time to train and show it.

What is Emmy's breeding again?
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