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    02-01-2008, 02:09 PM
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Trained
breeding two Impressive horses

I have been looking around at studs to past my time and kind of play match maker with my mare. I have no plans on breeding her anytime soon but I just wondering how it works if you breed two horses with similar bloodlines. As in breeding my impressive mare to an impressive stallion. Is it anything like inbreeding? Or would it be ok because there are other horses between Impressive and the current generatioin?

I've just been curious about it.

And here's another question which may get a little heated. My mare is HYPP nh and if I did breed her, I'd keep the baby and would never sell it. Is it bad to breed a HYPP positive horse to a negative horse?
     
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    02-01-2008, 02:12 PM
  #2
Started
If you breed a negative horse to a positive horse you have a chance of getting a positive horse or a negative horse, I think it's better to stay away from the Impressive breeding. I would go for something more like Zippo or along those lines. It's better to stay safe.
     
    02-01-2008, 02:30 PM
  #3
Trained
What if the impressive stud was NN? I highly doubt I'm going to breed her to an Impressive Stud just because some might lie about their horse being NN. But besides that whole HYPP thing, would the foals be deformed or have any birth defects?
     
    02-01-2008, 03:07 PM
  #4
Weanling
NO horse that is HYPP positive, whether N/H OR H/H should be bred. Full stop.

Sorry, but it's irressponsible.


There's no real problem breeding two horses with similar bloodlines - it's called linebreeding and is fine so long as you KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING. I am of the opinion that only very experienced horse people should breed, and even then only to registered, good quality animals. There's a little slack in it if you say you will keep the foal for life, but can you be sure of that? What if you go bankrupt or die before the horse does?

I will stop now. But anyway, please don't breed your mare. If everyone just stopped breeding horses with HYPP the horrible condition would be gone in one generation...
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    02-01-2008, 03:26 PM
  #5
Trained
Kyani, I understand where you are coming from. I'm not set on breeding my mare, and honestly, I never knew about HyPP before I came onto this forum, so I could have bred her without knowing.

I knew posting this, there would be posts saying not to breed her. I understand that completely. But I just wanted to know what would happen.

I cannot predict the future, but the way things are going now, I don't see me with no money, but life does happen so no one knows.

I also know I could buy a filly or colt and train it from there, but I'd also like the bond I could have with a horse I knew since day one.

This was just something I was wondering and thought I'd ask. That's all. My mare is only 4 and if I am going to breed her, it won't be til she's older. Not to mention have her and my boyfriend's horse on our own property.
     
    02-01-2008, 03:47 PM
  #6
Weanling
No, I totally understand that you're not se ton breeding your mare or anything. I just went off on one a bit

As for what would happen:
Even if you bred her to a n/n horse, there would still be a 50/50 chance of the foal being hypp positive. It's not worth it, even the the chance was a fraction of that.

As an aside, there is NOTHING wrong with Impressive horses that are N/N. If your mare didn't have hypp, one would be fine to breed with, but as it is, she should never be bred to anything.
     
    02-01-2008, 04:04 PM
  #7
Trained
I never knew that about horses. Pretty interesting.

What I'll probably do if I want a baby, is buy another horse and take it from there. But that's not going to be for years from now.

Thanks for the information!
     
    02-01-2008, 07:21 PM
  #8
Weanling
You're welcome. I'm sorry I was a little aggressive to start with - gotton used to people being very defensive and stubborn about things like this lately!

Buying a youngster is a much better way to go - instead of adding to the over-saturated horse population, you could help one that's already headed to a bad place because of the problem. If you're smart about what you buy, and don't spring for anything you can't handle, and can handle leaving behind some heart-breaking cases, an auction might be a good place to look for a project youngster. You could even save one from going to slaughter. Plenty of nice, even registered, AQHA youngsters going cheap as chips at auctions :) (probably for cheaper than it would cost to breed and raise your own foal!)
     
    02-01-2008, 08:22 PM
  #9
Yearling
I agree with everything Kyani has said 100%

It is sad that your mare is hypp, and you ended up in that situation without being told of it. Your mare being only 4 years old may or may not have attacks at any point in the future (lets hope not)...I know you do not want to produce a second horse who could be the same way. 50/50 are HIGH odds when you are playing with such a sickening disease.

I think it would be great if you found a weanling in the future is you are interested in raising a baby and having that bond (just have it checked out) :)

That topic aside...it can actually be a desirable thing to find a horse with a certain horse or line in several places on the pedigree. Our mare is Doc Bar on the top and bottom of her pedigree with many big name producers and performers along that line.
     
    02-01-2008, 10:36 PM
  #10
Trained
I've really been thinking about breeding lately. I wanted a mare to be able to have a baby from my first horse and yes 50% is too high for me. And I think i'll be a lot saner (if that's a word) if I don't have a pregnant mare on my hands. (I think I might wind up sleeping in the barn to make sure she's ok, and I don't think my boyfriend would like that very much) I saw on TV more than once, that during the foaling process either the mom or baby died. I dunno what I'd do if that happened.

I think that's cool about the whole line breeding. I thought it was a big NO-NO in horse breeding, or that breeders just didnt care and put any stud to any mare. Just proves how much I don't know.

I think I'm definitely going to get a weanling and take it from there. I think that would be the better and smarter choice. I'd love to get a baby now, but it wouldn't work. Hopefully within the next couple of years.

Thank you paintlover and Kyani for your information. I really appreciate it!
     

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