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        01-13-2013, 09:40 PM
      #11
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    I don't have the time, patience or inclination to wait 5 years to have a usable horse. I figure on 1+ year for breeding and pregnancy, and then 4 until I'd expect them to be well trained and reliably ready physically and mentally for consistent work. And that's not counting the expense of feeding, training, vet care and risks to mare and foal. No thanks, I'd rather even buy a 4 year old horse with zero training than bother with breeding one. Best yet (IMO) to find one with basic training already and an aptitude for what I want.
         
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        01-13-2013, 10:29 PM
      #12
    Trained
    There is always a risk of losing any horse. We still ride and compete on them though. Death from foaling is very rare and IMO the risk is so minimal I do not consider it.
    I have been breeding horses for over 30 years and have never lost a mare due to foaling. I
    If you are going to compete at any level, especially in certain disciplines , you are placing your horse at greater risk for injury or death than you will by breeding her.
    It is cheaper for me to breed and raise a foal of the quality that I desire than to purchase one.
    I get a lot of satisfaction from planning the breeding and raising the foal.
    Niether of your mares are too old to breed. The 17 YO may not be as fertile as the 12 . I have bred mares well into their 20's with no problem. Shalom
         
        01-13-2013, 11:38 PM
      #13
    Weanling
    Unless the mare is truly exceptional, you are better off buying one.
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        01-13-2013, 11:50 PM
      #14
    Yearling
    I would personally like breeding, because then you can have that experience with raising your own foal. In Saskatchewan there is not much selection for the perfect horse in your eyes that is also cheap enough too. It is a small world, I live in SK too and live 3 hours from unity.
         
        01-14-2013, 12:01 AM
      #15
    Started
    While it may be expensive and time consuming to find the right horse. When you factor in breeding soundness exam, stud fee, shipping/marecare or AI, ultrasounds, vaccines, foal watch, feed, training, hoofcare its actually cheaper to buy a horse then breed one.

    Problems with mares may be rare for some, which might be good luck or good planning. Its probably both. Horse delivery drama tends to make up for it in the short life for emergency response. The time between the start of birth and death is about 40 minutes for a foal. So, by the time you realize you are having a problem its not a matter of saving a foal but of delivering a dead one. Then you hope really hard that the mare lives.

    There are good chances that your mare would deliver without a problem; however, there is risk in everything. I would not want to breed a 17 year old maiden mare. The toll it takes on a horses body is significant and maiden mares can have difficulty with conception plus age. I guess the question is what does your mare bring to the table? Great genes? Great conformation? Great show record on a national stage? I would make a list. Your own personal list. Reasons to breed on one side and reasons not to breed on the other.
         
        01-14-2013, 12:16 AM
      #16
    Trained
    I'd buy. There are millions of foals out there already, most wasted. Why put another one into the world when there are plenty already on the ground of the same, if not better, quality than what your mares would produce?
    If you don't want to take on someone else's problems - purchase a weanling. I purchased a weanling warmblood colt, he'd been just about untouched other than basic halter breaking, loading into a truck and taken to his Hanoverian inspection day.
         
        01-14-2013, 08:40 AM
      #17
    Trained
    The 17 YO mare should not have any more problems foaling if she has no physical issues than any other mare. I have a 31 YO mare that foaled at 27 and still going strong.
    Here we only handle the colts about 30 minutes every other day for the first 3 years. We only feed grain as a supplement. The vet is called out only for annual shots unless there is an emergrency. Foal watch cost nothing, we do not buy hay we harvest our own. Any horse not being ridden is only trimmed every 3 months unless they grow faster. Hard hooves are mandatory here as well as being able to keep weight on mostly by pasture. Training only cost about 400 a month for breaking and they are gone for 2 months. We finish them here.
    My stallions services are free and I do not pay mare care or AI fees.
    With careful planning and facilities you can breed and it not cost you a small fortune.
    The last mare that I purchased cost 10,000$ I can raise a foal much cheaper thatn that.
    Rookie has given you some things to consider. If you board your horse I would not breed. Why pay board for a horse that you cannot ride for 2 years at least? That's a lot of money for 2 years. Shalom
         
        01-14-2013, 09:01 AM
      #18
    Cat
    Green Broke
    Instead of risking your beloved mares - buy one of the millions of horses out there for sale instead. If you really want to raise a baby - buy one! Just because you purchase does not mean you need to buy an expensive already trained adult. You can buy a weanling or yearling and raise and train it the way you want, and it will still probably cost less then breeding your own mares and has little of the risk.
         
        01-14-2013, 09:33 AM
      #19
    Trained
    DB your mare that foaled at 27 wasn't a maiden mare though was she? She was a "professional" broodmare correct?

    I wouldn't be comparing an older maiden mare to a broodmare in regards to pregnancy and birth...
         
        01-14-2013, 10:20 AM
      #20
    Trained
    No NDappy she was not a maiden but had not foaled in 5 years and only twice before that. I bred her the first time at 15.
    As I posted before if she can get that mare in foal she should not have a problem barring any physical issues.
    Her best option would be to breed the 12YO if she chooses. Shalom
         

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