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post #11 of 22 Old 01-04-2013, 07:49 PM
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If you're standing a stud to the public you better put your heart and soul and wallet into making him look presentable. Nothing more ridiculous that some halfassed shot of twinkletoes prancing around the pen. Or I really hate when studs are photoshopped into beach shots, or lush green pastures where you can't see their legs properly.

People with true credibility and integrity don't need to tell other people how great they are.
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post #12 of 22 Old 01-04-2013, 07:50 PM
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'Twas ever thus... just look back through old Arabian Horse Worlds, and all of the shots are tilted: get the horse to stretch his neck out and down, and then angle the picture so it's looking at the sky... body shots like that too. Used to drive me crazy!
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There's one I keep seeing lately for a QH stud, standing in a junky sand paddock with beat up buckets and chewed up fences, and the stud is at a weird angle and eating. Really?! Why even bother??!
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post #14 of 22 Old 01-04-2013, 09:00 PM
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perhaps the better way of thinking of it is. You don't need to know anything to say that horse looks pretty running around in a field. You need to know something to evaluate a studs conformation. Which means you need to know your mares conformation. Which means that you are not flipping through an magazine add but you are studying a horse. Which is not going to sell many magazines.

People do pay for conformation shots and should, so I think I phrased things wrong before. Most people view a bunch of conformation shots as boring to look at unless you know what you are looking at. Conformation shots ask a person to tear a horse apart. No horse is perfect; however, do you want every flaw on your stud with a large stud fee to be picked apart by every weekend warrior?
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post #15 of 22 Old 01-04-2013, 09:19 PM
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Whatever the breed they should not be afraid to show all side, rear and front shots including their feet. Also, the video should be shot is normal speed not slowed. Faults or not, I want to see phenotypical along with researching genotypical. I want to research the dam's side along with the sire's side and see the traits and or faults. I will find strengths and weaknesses and come to a conclusion as to whether my mare will cross well or not, because before breeding I hope people truly "know" their mare.
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post #16 of 22 Old 01-04-2013, 09:32 PM Thread Starter
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Conformation shots ask a person to tear a horse apart. No horse is perfect; however, do you want every flaw on your stud with a large stud fee to be picked apart by every weekend warrior?
You are bang on right that no horse is perfect, but I would argue about conformation shots inviting people to pick a stud apart.

If you have a stud and you want people to use him, or you want to sell his offspring you need to be as sure of his conformation, performance and temperament as possible. You have to get out and promote him and be as aware of his shortcomings, because as you rightly say, no horse is perfect, but you have to admit that and push his good points.

If I am looking for a stud for one of my mares I want something that can improve on their shortcomings.

I like to see conformation shots, under saddle shots seeing the horse doing what he has been trained for, and then either liberty shots, or a video, so you get a feel for the essence of the horse. That is where the arty pics come in, you are after all selling a dream
Examples, my current favorite boy

Stood up



In the ring



Arty




In the raw having fun



Just for fun

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post #17 of 22 Old 01-04-2013, 09:36 PM
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perhaps the better way of thinking of it is. You don't need to know anything to say that horse looks pretty running around in a field. You need to know something to evaluate a studs conformation. Which means you need to know your mares conformation. Which means that you are not flipping through an magazine add but you are studying a horse. Which is not going to sell many magazines.
Good point. I guess the purpose of the glossy mags is to catch people's attention and let them know what you have got. Then the research begins and options are explored and considered, pursued or rejected.

As kids, my sisters and I would skim over all the glossy, tilted, muzzle blacked headshots, and the wild-eyed park horses trotting madly uphill at crazy angles, while we would study shots like WSArabians grey stallion... he would have been on a dog-earred page for sure. He looks like James Bond, but a James Bond whose tie has been loosened, and who is leaning back on the mantle, half-smiling at the camera with a martini in his hand... "Shaken, not stirred..."
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He looks like James Bond, but a James Bond whose tie has been loosened, and who is leaning back on the mantle, half-smiling at the camera with a martini in his hand... "Shaken, not stirred..."

I wish I could like this more than once, so true, I never see him again without seeing Sean Connery, (because of course he is the only real Bond)
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post #19 of 22 Old 01-05-2013, 02:33 AM
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It is about marketing your stallion.
Those artistic photos get the attention of the mare owner.
In the 80's and even today Arabs in the halter classes are marketed as living pieces of art. What horse in real life do you see with his neck extended that way?
IMO the whole arab halter pose is not natural so why should the way they market a stallion be different?
If it did not work then stallion owners would showcase their studs posed like the stock horses.
It is also one of the reasons I will not breed to any stallion I have not seen in person. Shalom
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post #20 of 22 Old 01-05-2013, 02:45 AM
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a Stud horse should have good conformation regardless of breed, with decent grooming should be shown side, front, and rear. Then if the owner wants artsy they should ad a couple of those shots.
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