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post #21 of 96 Old 10-25-2008, 03:15 PM
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Okay, I have to speak up.. if you're paying less than $1000 for a stud fee... chances are that stud isn't very good, and you're going to get a less-than-mediocre foal from it.
Oh that note, there are plenty of cruddy stallions out there with a high price tag as well... you have to be on the lookout. But generally a stallion worth breeding to will have a stud fee around $1500.

There is a huge huge overpopulation problem right now... honestly, please please go to your local auction, see what's selling to the meat man, and ask yourself - why will this horse be better than those poor horses going to slaughter?
You cannot say 100% that you will be able to provide for this horse forever - NONE of us can.. anyone can fall on hard times, and we have to make sure that we give our horses a fighting chance to find a good home in case of that.
So ask yourself...
- Why is this mare special enough to be breeding?
- Why is the stallion special enough to be breeding? Why is he worthy of his "manhood"? What has he done to prove himself to be worthy of breeding?
- What flaws does your mare have? Are they "fatal" flaws, or just minor ones? Are you choosing a stallion that will counter any minor flaws?
- What are you breeding the foal for? Different stallions have different body types for different disciplines. What is your mare bred for? Example, generally you won't see a halter-bred horse doing well in the reining world.
- Are you prepared to train the foal?

There are TONS of well-bred (non-Impressive) foals out there for dirt cheap right now. There's a reason.. the market is flooded.

Okay, I'm done.


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post #22 of 96 Old 10-26-2008, 02:44 PM
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Amen to that! Thumbs up on this end!

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post #23 of 96 Old 10-28-2008, 06:22 PM
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I wouldn't breed to either.
One's too young first off.
But why do you want to breed her anyways?
Are you planning on keeping the foal? No matter what it lacks?

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I just picked a well bred colt up for $300 that has Colonel Freckles, Doc Olena and the Corn husker all on his papers. He has great conformation and he is really friendly and pretty!
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Okay, I have to speak up.. if you're paying less than $1000 for a stud fee... chances are that stud isn't very good, and you're going to get a less-than-mediocre foal from it.
Wow, that is a pretty bold statement! I personally know several excellent Stallions that have breeding fees of $500 It all depends on the breed and what kind of a stalllion you are looking to breed your mare too, NOT the price of the Stud fee. Sorry but those kind of statements irk me.
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Wow, that is a pretty bold statement! I personally know several excellent Stallions that have breeding fees of $500 It all depends on the breed and what kind of a stalllion you are looking to breed your mare too, NOT the price of the Stud fee. Sorry but those kind of statements irk me.

But when you're talking about paints, like we are, it's pretty hard to find something actually worth breeding that cheap.

And $500 is a lot more than...the what, $200 she would spend on either of those studs?

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Wow, that is a pretty bold statement! I personally know several excellent Stallions that have breeding fees of $500 It all depends on the breed and what kind of a stalllion you are looking to breed your mare too, NOT the price of the Stud fee. Sorry but those kind of statements irk me.


Generally, good studs have high fees. It's the way the world works.

And I never said always.. I said "if you're paying less than $1000 for a stud fee, chances are the stallion isn't all that great."
ESPECIALLY with a common breed, in the $0-$1000 range 90% of those stallions are going to be nothing special. Sure, you'll find the odd exception, but if a stallion owner KNOWS they have a good thing, they're going to market him like that.
I also never said it was just about the stud fee, that you have to be very careful.



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Wow, that is a pretty bold statement! I personally know several excellent Stallions that have breeding fees of $500 It all depends on the breed and what kind of a stalllion you are looking to breed your mare too, NOT the price of the Stud fee. Sorry but those kind of statements irk me.
She is right tho. If a stallion were good enough for breeding outside of just average standards, the stud fee would be much higher as he would be on high demand. Good stallions are noticed quickly and from the sounds of it, it's not the case with this one.
Why not spend that money on a foal who has already hit the ground. Get a horse that will match everything you are going to be hoping for in this foal if you breed. I can almost guarantee you (regardless of your geographical location) that you will be able to find a better foal than what you would end up with for the same amount of money.
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I would like to see a really good stallion with a breeding fee for $500 or less...
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Kicksaw, those questions should be asked every time a horse is breeded by everyone from a backyard breeder to multri-million dallor operations.

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