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post #11 of 17 Old 04-23-2011, 09:48 AM
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I wonder if some of the mares got one or two breeding stitches in and not a full blown caslicks? Or - you got lucky and got mares that didnt have it done

I think its barbaric to be very honest. Fine and dandy if they need it, or you are breeding them and they are tipped and in order to ensure the foal "sticks" it has to be done, but to wholesale do it to every mare whether they need it or not - insane in my eyes.

Perhaps we need to approach the (predominantly male) vets with gut and needle in hand and say "this wont hurt a bit. We are going to do this stitching up procedure on you "just because" and "just in case your anatomy changes in the next 5-10 years or so and you need it"

Uh uh ... just doesnt happen around here unless they DO need it ...
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post #12 of 17 Old 04-23-2011, 04:33 PM
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I didn't know racers in america were generally caslicked. My mare is caslicked as she is very prone to infections there (that's what I've been told by the person who's had it done).
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Checked Kita out, and she for sure does have a caslick. Havent had Queen checked out yet, but I know Queen has only been off the track for a year. So, Im goin to guess she has had one done too.

I dont know if either one have a tilted uterus. So now I am extremely curious. If they have one, why would they need it to be redone after they have been bred. I understand it helps keep infection out and might help keep the mare in foal. Is there any other reason to do it after the mare has been bred?


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post #14 of 17 Old 04-24-2011, 07:09 AM
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Theer are some people (vets and/or mare owners) that believe every mare should go on Regumate to maintain a pregnancy. Some also believe that every mare should be caslicked to maintain her pregnancy - just "because"

A lot of times a young mare that is thin and fit will appear to be tilted through her pelvis. As she fills out and matures, her pelvic conformation may change and become normal. We've live covered many 3-4 years olds off the track for clients that are definately tipped. When they come back as 4 and 5 year olds, they no longer are

Some are REALLY bad, in that a stallion has a lot of difficulty breeding them and you have to assist every step of the way in making the angles match and if those mares dont "grow out of" the degree they are tipped, you really wonder if they should be bred at all as they are simply perpetuating future lines of tipped mares genetically that will have possible problems maintaining their pregnancies
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post #15 of 17 Old 04-24-2011, 12:05 PM
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I'm curious if the same occurs here in South Africa (I don't have a lot of experience in the racing industry here). As far as I understand it, only a registered veterinarian is allowed to perform it as it would be considered a veterinary procedure (though the same can be said about tail docking and breeders still 'illegally' do it here) and I can't see vets just performing it 'because' as procedures are meant to be justified.

Each mare has her Caslick's index done, and using that as a guideline and depending on the conditions and the requirements of the mare, the operation can be done but I can't imagine it just being routinely done on all horses on the track in case a rogue colt gets out or to prevent them sucking air as usually the ones that suck air are the ones who actually require a Caslicks operation.
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post #16 of 17 Old 11-10-2016, 10:07 AM
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if anyone is still reading this thread? I just bought an OTTB mare, who has the caslicks sutures in place. she is 5. I do not plan on breeding her, she is to be my show horse, and she is turned out with my gelding, who was gelded at age 6. [was never used for breeding]. she was also intended to be a companion for him, because he has been a loner ever since his mom died 2 years ago, and my other geldings beat him up. however, he keeps trying to mount her, [was with his mom ever since gelding, and never bothered her], I'm worried he might injure this new mare, I see her trying to "wink" it looks painful since she's not able to do what is a natural function. so far all I can find researching it is to leave her the way she is, but would like opinions, other's experiences?
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post #17 of 17 Old 11-10-2016, 06:16 PM
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IMO, there's no reason to keep a caslick in place on a mare that isn't bred. My trainer used to have caslicks done on all of his bred Arabian mares, and it was done with stainless steel wire. According to him, once it's been done to a mare, it has to be done for every pregnancy thereafter!

I never agreed with that reasoning. Re move the caslick and let your mare have unimpeded natural use of her vulva. Or to put it in perspective another way.....think about how uncomfortable you would feel if your "hoohaw" was sewn shut!
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