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post #1 of 31 Old 11-30-2008, 01:38 AM Thread Starter
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Check out my stud please :)

Hey yall I would love to show off my stud "Justice" and get your opinion on him. If anyone knows a good place to advertise your stallion please let me know, His books are open for the 2009 season and at this point in time we are only offering live cover. He is a very easy going stud but has tons of speed for your rodeo needs. He will stand stock still or hours without a sound around 100s of horses and will let you ride him bareback in a halter around mares. Here are his bloodlines. And if anyone knows how to post pics your help would be greatly appreciated

CJ Heir Of Justice
AQHA# 3972042
Foal Date: April 10 2000
Color: Chestnut
Height: 16.0 HH
Weight: 1350 lbs
HYPP: N/H w/ no symptoms
Amateur Halter Points: 3
Open Halter Points: 11


.....................................Skipa Star
.................Ima Cool Skip
.....................................Susie Impressive
Cool Justice
.....................................Quincy Feature
.................Flash Dance RV
.....................................Cordillera

.....................................Son and Heir
................Sonnys Heir
.....................................Birthday Surprise
Sonnette BO
.....................................Two Eyed Jack
................Two Eyed Bo
.....................................BO
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post #2 of 31 Old 11-30-2008, 02:58 AM
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Erm my personal opinion is even NH horses shouldn't be bred...

But if you google horse classifieds you can post stud ads on many of them.
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post #3 of 31 Old 11-30-2008, 03:33 AM Thread Starter
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he has 16 healthy babies that have no hypp all it takes is breeding smart, I refuse to breed to N/H or H/H mares that way the babies arent N/H or H/H. We ran the bloodwork and determined he will never throw N/H or H/H if only bred to N/N don't worry I do my homework extensively, I just don't believe in being stupid like some people and just breeding to whatever and "hoping" the baby is ok, that I agree is dumb
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How is it if he's N/H it would be impossable for him not to sire an N/H foal with N/N mares?
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he has 16 healthy babies that have no hypp all it takes is breeding smart, I refuse to breed to N/H or H/H mares that way the babies arent N/H or H/H. We ran the bloodwork and determined he will never throw N/H or H/H if only bred to N/N don't worry I do my homework extensively, I just don't believe in being stupid like some people and just breeding to whatever and "hoping" the baby is ok, that I agree is dumb
A little more homework is needed.

Horse HYPP

Expected Breeding Outcomes N/H x N/H have 25% chance of producing normal offspring, 50% chance of producing heterozygous carriers and 25% chance of producing homozygote offspringN/H x N/N have 50% chance of producing normal (NN) offspring and 50% chance of producing carriers (NH).NHNHN25% NN25% NHN50% NN50% NHH25% NH25% HH
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post #6 of 31 Old 11-30-2008, 10:24 AM
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I would have to agree with Spyder. I've done very little homework and even I know that a N/H can throw other N/H foals. I can almost garuntee that you not going to get outside mares on this stallion.

Just a little bit of advice, if you really want a stallion cut this guy and sell him as a gelding (which it sounds like he will be a great on) and then save up your money and buy a REALLY good stallion. And if you want Impressive bred test them for HYPP BEFORE you ever breed a mare.
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post #7 of 31 Old 11-30-2008, 11:17 AM
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I think he'd make a great gelding.

I own an Impressive granddaughter, HYPP N/N. I LOVE Impressive bred horses, but I would NEVER breed an N/H horse, ever. You have a 50% chance of producing an N/H foal if you breed to an N/N or non-Impressive mare. That's too high IMO. You CANNOT guarantee their long term health. An N/H horse CAN develop symptoms later in life.
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post #8 of 31 Old 11-30-2008, 11:19 AM
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And if you want Impressive bred test them for HYPP BEFORE you ever breed a mare.
I'd go further than that. I'd test the stallion before purchasing him.

If you like this stud and his lines, then keep one of his N/N colts that has already been born as a future stud, and geld your N/H stallion now.
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I'll throw in my 2 cents as well; do NOT breed an N/H horse - he can still pass on HYPP, which is a terrible disease that I wouldn't wish on any horse. Even if your horse is NH with no symptoms, he could still present with symptoms and have an attack at any time.
Same goes with ANY NH horse, and even if you breed with a NN mare, you still have a 50% chance of the foal being NH, and able to pass on the disease.

I guess my point is - if everyone stopped breeding HH and NH horses, we would eradicate this awful disease within ONE GENERATION. How amazing is that? Being actually able to stop a fatal disease? That's very rare and we have the power to stop it.

Here's a video of a mare having an attack, I will warn you that it is disturbing
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Now, how cool is it that we can actually stop this disease from existing? We have that power! Now we just have to use it!


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post #10 of 31 Old 11-30-2008, 11:39 AM
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now, how cool is it that we can actually stop this disease from existing? We have that power! Now we just have to use it!
very very well said!!!
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