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        11-30-2008, 01:00 PM
      #11
    Weanling
    HYPP is not like Herda as far as the genatic disorder goes. If a horse is N/H and bred to a N/N mare it can still pass it on. With a HErda horse both horses when bred have to be a carrier to pass it on.

    Just because theres 16 foals that are healthy in no way means none are HYPP N/H in fact I'd bet the farm some are. 16 straight N/N foals from a N/H sire would be the odds you want for winning the lottery. Not impossable but rare and its only a matter of time he's going to pass it on could be the next 16 are N/H.
         
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        12-01-2008, 10:56 AM
      #12
    Started
    JDI.. you make a great point. We can all stop woth with some blood tests and smart thinking. I have owned two impressive mares in my time but refused to buy till they were tested for HYPP (both were NN).

    As far as the Video- I feel so bad for the mare and foal... who knows what the outcome will be for the little one.
         
        12-01-2008, 12:55 PM
      #13
    Trained
    I think everyone has already said what I was going on.

    A N/H stallion should be a gelding. NO N/H no matter how great should be bred.
         
        12-01-2008, 04:42 PM
      #14
    Yearling
    Obviously, the poster doesn't want to hear the truth and is probably going to breed him anyway.

    That's what happens, and that's why this disease still exists.
         
        12-01-2008, 06:44 PM
      #15
    Foal
    I disagree with the non-breeding of N/H stallions and mares. If they really want to get their bloodlines out there and have a phenominal horse to do that with that is their buisness. I bought an N/H horse who is a grandson of impressive it was the best thing I could have done he is the absolute best horse and only has to be on his med. On really hot or stressfull days. He's only ever shown symptoms twice. As long as the owners of the horses are fully aware and informed on HYPP it is their choice.
         
        12-01-2008, 11:35 PM
      #16
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by pleasurehorse11    
    I disagree with the non-breeding of N/H stallions and mares. If they really want to get their bloodlines out there and have a phenominal horse to do that with that is their buisness. I bought an N/H horse who is a grandson of impressive it was the best thing I could have done he is the absolute best horse and only has to be on his med. On really hot or stressfull days. He's only ever shown symptoms twice. As long as the owners of the horses are fully aware and informed on HYPP it is their choice.
    Sure, it's their choice to own one, but breeding an HYPP N/H horse should be banned. The AQHA has thankfully done away with H/H horses being bred or registered (phasing those out slowly). It's only a matter of time before they phase out N/H horses as well. There are PLENTY of beautiful horses out there that are N/N or non-Impressive. With our already over populated QH market, we do NOT need DISEASED horses being bred, no matter how "good" they are otherwise... It's just plain irresponsible, period.
         
        12-01-2008, 11:43 PM
      #17
    Banned
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by luvs2ride1979    
    It's only a matter of time before they phase out N/H horses as well.
    Yes a whole 17 years ( 2025) before that full ban comes into effect when it could be done in two (2010).
         
        12-02-2008, 12:27 AM
      #18
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by pleasurehorse11    
    I disagree with the non-breeding of N/H stallions and mares. If they really want to get their bloodlines out there and have a phenominal horse to do that with that is their buisness. I bought an N/H horse who is a grandson of impressive it was the best thing I could have done he is the absolute best horse and only has to be on his med. On really hot or stressfull days. He's only ever shown symptoms twice. As long as the owners of the horses are fully aware and informed on HYPP it is their choice.
    I would much rather have an average healthy horse than a "phenomenal" horse with a life threatening disease. I am not saying you need to slaughter all the horses that are positive. But there is no good reason to breed a horse that is going to pass on this disease. There is another board going on right now where the OP wants to know if people would buy a N/H horse. It seems right now that there is a general opinion of NO.
    Why would you breed something that isn't going to be able to find a home?
    We do not need to add to the problem by breeding more.
         
        12-02-2008, 02:41 AM
      #19
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by pleasurehorse11    
    I disagree with the non-breeding of N/H stallions and mares. If they really want to get their bloodlines out there and have a phenominal horse to do that with that is their buisness. I bought an N/H horse who is a grandson of impressive it was the best thing I could have done he is the absolute best horse and only has to be on his med. On really hot or stressfull days. He's only ever shown symptoms twice. As long as the owners of the horses are fully aware and informed on HYPP it is their choice.

    Wow. This is what I read: 'I don't care if some horses have a disease we could cure if it produces some good ones.'

    You can get a phenomenal horse that ISN'T Diseased. In my opinion, that's much better, much smarter, and more responsible.
         
        12-02-2008, 09:29 AM
      #20
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Spyder    
    Yes a whole 17 years ( 2025) before that full ban comes into effect when it could be done in two (2010).
    I know, I do not agree with how the AQHA is handling it, but politics run their organization and plenty of higher ups have HYPP horses, so they had to be placated... Never mind the horse's well being...
         

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