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    01-10-2010, 05:53 AM
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Foal
Chestnut foal with dorsal stripe - what colour will he be?

What colour could my baby be?

He is a dusty chestnut colour with a red dorsal stripe, his mane is fairly red and his tail is the same but with white sides. He was born with caramel coloured skin around his eyes muzzle and privates. This skin all went black within a week.
Could he be palomino??
I have seen pictures of pally foals born like this, but he's looking more like a chestnut. So can a chestnut be born with a dorsal stripe? His mum is bay and dad's a pally.
(I'm just too impatient to wait - he's only 3 weeks old)
     
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    01-10-2010, 08:59 AM
  #2
Yearling
Sounds like he's a red dun.
     
    01-10-2010, 09:14 AM
  #3
Green Broke
Red dun :)

Or as he's a foal he could become roany.
Got any pics?
     
    01-10-2010, 11:35 AM
  #4
Showing
I would also guess red dun based on his description but it doesn't sound like either of the parents have the dun gene. He could be a form of buckskin maybe or possibly a bright bay, I don't know. Pics would definitely help.

However, it is hard to tell what their final color will be when they are so young. When my baby was born, I thought he might end up being a bright sorrel with pangare fading like his momma but now he is the deep chesnut in my avatar.
     
    01-10-2010, 05:09 PM
  #5
Foal
chestnut with dorsal stripe

I didn't think her father would have had the dun gene but maybe it is in there somewhere, I know he is supposed to be from 8 generations of colour but whether just palomino or whether there is some dun in there I don't know. I couldn't really imagine him going bay or chestnut as there is still absolutely no sign of any dark hairs around his points.

I have a picture of him loaded in my 'horses' section that shows the dorsal, these where at 1 day old.

This is the webpage of the stallion.
Stallions | Byalee Briar | About Briar

I guess the biggest question is - is it possible to have a chestnut foal born with a dorsal stripe? I've just never seen it before - not that we've had a chestnut foal before.
     
    01-10-2010, 05:31 PM
  #6
Weanling
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Originally Posted by shanarra    
I guess the biggest question is - is it possible to have a chestnut foal born with a dorsal stripe? I've just never seen it before - not that we've had a chestnut foal before.

Yes, it's possible. From AQHA's Color Coat Genetics:

"IF A SORREL HORSE HAS A DORSAL STRIPE, DOESN’T THAT MAKE IT A DUN?
Foals that will be SORREL are often born with light red hair coloration as well as having a distinct dorsal stripe. This characteristic is often confused with and mistaken as
RED DUN. However, a SORREL is a non-diluted horse. A dorsal stripe can be inherited from a non-DUN parent. A SORREL foal usually loses the dorsal stripe upon
Shedding its first coat. But even if the SORREL retains the dorsal stripe as a mature horse, it still is not due to the DUN DILUTION gene. One may notice that the mature
Coat of the SORREL does not include zebra stripes on the legs."
     
    01-10-2010, 06:07 PM
  #7
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Green Broke
A lot of foals have dorsal stripes and then lose them as they grow up. Sorta viewed as foal camouflage. Some keep faint ones - which is really just countershading and not really a dorsal stripe. They can really confuse people. Since neither of the parents is a dun, the foal most likely is not.

Do you have any photos of the foal? Maybe a pic will allow someone to better determine if its going to be a pally or chestnut.
     
    01-10-2010, 07:26 PM
  #8
Yearling
I looked at the pics, he's a sorrel/chestnut. Very cute!
     
    01-10-2010, 11:06 PM
  #9
Started
I couldn't find a "horse" section on your website? Maybe I'm confused ;)

But many (most?) foals are born with a dorsal, it's countershading as has been said. So your foal is either chestnut or palomino :)
     
    01-10-2010, 11:43 PM
  #10
Green Broke
Sounds like a sorrel/chestnut me as well. If you can track his genes back to a red dun, then perhaps yes that could be his definent coloring. But as said before it's a tad too early to know for sure.

Excuse the spelling and briefety, this was sent from my iTouch(:
     

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