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  • Dunskin foal pictures
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    02-26-2012, 12:21 PM
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Yearling
I think it is called a milk=bucket muzzle or it could be a white muzzle. It sure is pretty what ever it is.
     
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    02-26-2012, 12:22 PM
  #22
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WyndellaRose- yes, I believe the mom did.

Now how often can you produce a dunskin or baydun. It's just a cool pattern :) is it a rare thing to get? I had seen he gave off a few dunskins but not sure of a baydun. Anyone care to share?
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    02-28-2012, 05:49 PM
  #23
Foal
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Originally Posted by MyLittlePonies    
WyndellaRose- yes, I believe the mom did.

Now how often can you produce a dunskin or baydun. It's just a cool pattern :) is it a rare thing to get? I had seen he gave off a few dunskins but not sure of a baydun. Anyone care to share?
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"Bay Dun" is your "regular" looking dun, the most commonly seen Dun. He has one copy of Dun so you have a 50/50 shot at getting your dun gene or not. Dunskin, same thing- one creme gene so you have a 50/50 shot at creme and 50/50 shot at the dun gene. You could get one, both, or neither.

I'm confused about your comment "I had seen he gave off a few dunskins but not sure of baydun"... he has produced a good number of Duns. (aka Bay Dun) Dun is simply a bay horse that carries the dun gene. Then you have Grulla- Black with the dun gene, and red dun is chestnut with the dun gene. Formula One has produced Dun, Dunskin, Buckskin, Grulla, Bay, and Brown foals.
     
    02-28-2012, 08:21 PM
  #24
Foal
Hi. This is the owner of SBR Formula One. I don't know which mare is yours that is booked as I don't know you by your screen name MyLittlePoines so sorry I can't reply to you more personally. SunnyDraco is correct on the color percents from the color calculator, thank you for posting for her. He is actually producing over 85% the past 4 years on all non-colored mares (black, bay, cht). Regarding the question about the pearl foal, yes the mare she is out of that we own is homozygous pearl so all her foals will receive a pearl gene. The pearl gene is very unique, it doesn't show up with one copy on most colors like chestnut that is why they would line-breed Bar Link Macho Man bred horses (where the gene originated) and come out with a "palomino" colored foal out of two chestnuts, which we know can not happen so they that is how they came upon the Pearl gene. However when mixed with a creme gene it tends to be more visual making it even lighter and have the pearl sheen to it. Below is a link that is a very interesting article by APHA Journal on the pearl gene for more info. The mare we now own is in the article Shesa Bita Awesome. The filly she had is dunskin, pearl carrier. SHe is very light and pictrures can be seen on our stallions site. He did produce color on that foal both cream and dun genes, the pearl is from the mare obviously which was already pointed out. If you have any other questions feel free to contact me directly.
Thanks all.
http://www.sbrformulaone.com/documen...iousPearls.pdf
     
    02-28-2012, 08:38 PM
  #25
Foal
In case anyone is interested in seeing the dunskin pearl filly.

Here is a picture of her at birth


Here are pictures of her as a weanling once she shed all out:


Can't see her dorsal in these due to the angle but she is dun.
     
    02-28-2012, 09:09 PM
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Wow she's beautiful.

I was looking into him for the near future. My mare is booked to a buckskin tobiano this year. She is a sorrel and carries a red dun in her grandsire, Go Lucky Dunbar's. Maybe I can send you my mares pedigree?
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    02-28-2012, 09:13 PM
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Trained
MLP - doesn't matter if your mare's grandsire or even sire were a dun. She didn't inherit the dun gene.
     
    02-28-2012, 09:17 PM
  #28
Foal
NdAppy is correct. The mare is either chestnut or red dun. You can't just carry a dun gene, they are either dun or not. :) Hope that helps. Do you have pictures of your mare? If we see her we can maybe help you more on that. And to clarify sorrel and chestnut are genetically the same, they just use the word sorrel to describe the lighter expression of the red it is no genetic difference.
     
    02-28-2012, 09:45 PM
  #29
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Yeah, I'm just not a pro so I'm learning :) I'll post pictures within the hour because I have to get one thing done first :)
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    02-28-2012, 10:35 PM
  #30
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Originally Posted by Rumonek    
I'm confused about your comment "I had seen he gave off a few dunskins but not sure of baydun"... he has produced a good number of Duns. (aka Bay Dun) Dun is simply a bay horse that carries the dun gene. Then you have Grulla- Black with the dun gene, and red dun is chestnut with the dun gene. Formula One has produced Dun, Dunskin, Buckskin, Grulla, Bay, and Brown foals.
He's homozygous agouti, so he has not and can not produce grulla.
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