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    07-15-2010, 01:32 AM
  #11
Yearling
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Originally Posted by DakotaLuv    
Uhhh....AnnaLover...it doesn't look like APHA does it any differently...

Horse Tobiano
Horse911.com / INFO: Identifying Tobiano And Overo Pintos
Tobiano - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Tobiano
Coloured Tobiano - Coloured Thoroughbred Stud North Yorkshire
Tobiano, Overo, Sabino, Tovero
Equine Color Genetics
Nebraska Pinto Horse Association
http://www.heritagefarmpasofino.com/...t%20Colors.pdf

So what would you call a "tobiano'' patterned horse with a blaze, strip, star, or snip? Because you are saying it's something different. But I went to a bunch of different websites describing tobiano and none of them said for tobiano the head is completely solid. So i'm very curious where you got that information or what the answer to my above question is. ;)
It's technically a tovero but I would still generally call it a tobiano.
     
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    07-15-2010, 01:33 AM
  #12
Yearling
Sorry for so many posts in a row but here's a quote from that thread: "Face white means 1 or more Overo genes are present, making the horse genetically Tovero."
     
    07-15-2010, 02:02 AM
  #13
Foal
Strange...sorry for kind of getting your thread off topic!

AnnaLover...so I'm still really curious. Let's just say there is an overo gene in every "tobiano" with a blaze, star, strip, or snip, etc.....which I do not agree with...the overo gene is able to produce a lethal white overo foal from two frame parents in some instances. Then how is there no LWO foals from two tobiano parents that both carry the frame overo gene? And still wondering what a "tobiano" with a star/strip/snip/blaze is called if it's not an actual tobiano???
     
    07-15-2010, 02:12 AM
  #14
Foal
AnnaLover...I posted replying to your first post and then once I posted you had just posted two more replies. So that response was to your first post. ;)
     
    07-15-2010, 02:34 AM
  #15
Yearling
I'm no expert on paints but I just wanted to share the interesting information I learned recently (the whole no white on a tobiano's face thing).. and supposedly and solid horse with any white markings has, if I remember right, sabino...

Oh and sorry OP for getting of topic ;P
     
    07-15-2010, 02:52 AM
  #16
Foal
We can agree to disagree.
     
    07-15-2010, 08:44 AM
  #17
Green Broke
He looks like a tobiano, although he has a lot of white so could also look like a tovero...
     
    07-15-2010, 08:46 AM
  #18
Green Broke
Quote:
Originally Posted by AnnaLover    
I'm no expert on paints but I just wanted to share the interesting information I learned recently (the whole no white on a tobiano's face thing).. and supposedly and solid horse with any white markings has, if I remember right, sabino...

Oh and sorry OP for getting of topic ;P
he has a blaze but I think that is ok for tobiano because it is just a face marking...

He's not sabino
     
    07-16-2010, 01:54 PM
  #19
Started
Tobiano does NOT cause face white. It is RARE to find a horse that is ONLY tobiano. Face white comes from sabino, splash, frame (aka LWO) and dominant white (DW), all of which are "overo" genes.

Best place to learn about color/markings: Equine Color Genetics | Learn to Identify Horse Colors and Learn Color Genetics, Discussion Forum, Photo Gallery
     
    07-16-2010, 02:13 PM
  #20
Foal
I am still seeing no research done on this. This is what that website says...
Tobiano

"Tobiano is probably the best recognized white pattern. It is a dominant characteristic, meaning that if only one parent carries tobiano the foal will have a 50% change of inheriting it. It tends to affect the legs, shoulders and hips, and leave the barrel of the horse colored. It can cross the top line and where it does, it will cross at the hip and shoulder first. Tobiano alone is thought to leave the face solid, but very few horses carry tobiano without having one of the other white patterns as well."

From what I have read from that website. It is THOUGHT to leave the face solid...if this was proven true they wouldn't have added that. If this were true then every single breed that has some form of face marking carries an overo gene. It just doesn't work.
     

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