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Considering a stud

I'm seriously considering the purchase of a 6 year old registered Appendix stallion. He caught my eye on Craigslist because of his color-a stunning, dark, grullo with heavy barring. VERY color bred on the sires side, but also bred with QUALITY. Sire puts big hips, refined heads, and good bone on his babies. Had some good-looking siblings doing Cutting, Reining, Halter, etc. Overall, I like what I see from the QH side.
The sire himself sustained an severe injury during reining training and is henceforth unshown as far as I'm aware. I did like the look of him, from what little I was able to find.

Still looking into the dams side, but she doesn't seem *fantastically* bred. Never raced either, hoping to maybe find a good thing or two as far as foals go.

He's registered as a Grullo QH with the AQHA, but apparently can also be registered as a Buckskin and also with the Jockey Club.

He supposedly has excellent manners, easy to catch, halter, leads, loads, baths, hauls, the whole nine yards. Not study or aggressive. Has never stood at stud, but has been teased and was calm and well behaved about it.
He's supposed to be big-standing in at 17hh. I'd guess he's more like 16-16.2hh.

When I saw him and asked for more information, I thought:
1. Halter horse
2. Western events, such as cutting or reining, depending.
3. Possibly English events, such as higher level Dressage. Something I am unable to do with Divo, because he's just so dang short.

He IS a beautiful looking boy from the small, not-squared-eating-grass picture that I saw. If he makes for a nice quality stallion, he's bound to make nice quality babies. There are a few people around here with well-bred, registered, QH mares whom he would compliment wonderfully. One in particular is at my trainers, she has a awesome temperament, refined head, big hip, and a lovely build. If this stud is as nice as I think he is, the two would make a fantastic working show baby.

NOW. I also thought, well, if he doesn't prove himself as a stallion, he'll make an incredible gelding. The better the stud, the better gelding he will make

I know the usual-so many horses, not enough homes. IF (I want to, of course, meet him first) I buy him, he would be limited in standing.
IF I keep him as a stallion at all, I may look at him and go; Well, I like him a lot, but he's not the mind-blowing stud I'm looking for.

To me, sires show record and breeding IS important, but his foals speak a thousand words. Every joe-blow with a filly would not be able to get a piece of the pie. I have a set idea of what kind of mares he would be bred to, great temperaments, refined heads, straight legs, big hips, big intelligence.
Not, sour attitude, block headed, knock-kneed, narrow, nasty mares with no papers or finesse to speak of.
It won't make me popular, but by god my stud is going to have requirements.

Has anyone kept older studs? What are they like? Where did you keep them? How did they train? How did they ride?
I have two acres he would have to himself next to my geldings with a lean-to for shelter. I don't like, and never will, the whole stud-in-a-tiny-pen deal. They need socialization and work just like geldings and mares.
I thought about perhaps turning him out WITH the geldings, but Loki, my 12 year old, is 15.2hh of I'm-Top-Of-The-Totem pole idiot. It might work, it might not. Some people keep intact studs together, it just all depends.

You can see his papers here:

Thoroughbred Pedigrees at - Thoroughbred Race Records - Mare Produce Records - Thoroughbred Pedigree - Quarter Horse Pedigrees - Quarter Horse Race Records has good information on his dam.

I'm hoping to go see him sometime next week. I'm crossing my fingers that he's the quality he's supposed to be. Maybe he won't be the stud I'm looking for, buy maaayyybbeee he's the intelligent multi-purpose show gelding I'd like to see in my pasture (or maybe even the robust trail mount I've been secretly looking for for my dad).
Always been an epic nerd for Grullos, thats for sure .

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post #2 of 4 Old 04-24-2011, 11:14 AM
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Your google doc doesn't work.

He cannot be registered with the JC since he is not PB TB. He is an appendix horse and cannot have JC papers in any way, shape or form.
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Originally Posted by NdAppy View Post
Your google doc doesn't work.

He cannot be registered with the JC since he is not PB TB. He is an appendix horse and cannot have JC papers in any way, shape or form.
Oh bugger...sorry about that.

I've never registered a horse (mine either came with papers or without), so I'm not clear on the issue. Just what the owner told me, they bought him up in Iowa I believe it was.

Sires side:
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