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post #11 of 20 Old 04-24-2013, 09:40 AM Thread Starter
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post #12 of 20 Old 04-24-2013, 10:20 AM
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If you are truely looking into breeding her, test her for HYPP (deal breaker for breeding if she carries HYPP as well as any potential stallion) and all other genetic diseases known to stock breeds. Also test her for frame (if she is positive, do not breed her to any stallion that hasn't been tested negative for frame so you don't get a foal that dies painfully 72 hrs after birth).

Ultimately, we cannot decide for you whether or not you breed your mare. We can give advice and help educate you about breeding. Things to avoid, dangers of losing mare and/or foal, genetic diseases, basic conformation help to point out flaws and what strengths a stallion needs to compliment her best (so long as the faults aren't severe that would effect performance and soundness)
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post #13 of 20 Old 04-24-2013, 11:46 AM
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Based on photos alone, I'm not wow'ed by her conformation. I know she's standing a little funny but she seems weak through the hind end and back, even a little sway backed. If she also doesn't have a show record, I see no real purpose in breeding her. I also didn't look at her pedigree. If she consistantly has well conformed winning horses in her pedigree, I *MAY* consider breeding her as a strong genetic stamp in the last few generations can carry through, but then I would question why she isn't built a little better.

Definitely if you select a proper stud, you could have a decent little foal but if the entire idea is to make money, I don't see it going well at all. Nobody is fighting to get their hands on a foal born to a dam with no real accomplishments, regardless of how nice the stallion unless she has a STUNNING pedigree and conformation, and you tend to see that a lot more with big breeders who have these mares specifically as broodmares.

Good luck in your decision either way! I think if you plan on keeping the foal and select a stallion wisely, you'd have a decent little prospect!
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She tested negative for HYPP .....
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thanks for the input! I dont think I will end up breeding her, but someone had suggested it to me so i thought I might see what you guys thought!

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As I have stated on other threads I dont think one can get an accurate idea about conformation from most pictures.
i also have a few mares that dont really " wow" anyone in the confromation department but produce very nice foals.
OP its your decision and you , the trainer , and breeder truly no what your mares faults are. Good Luck Shalom
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post #17 of 20 Old 04-25-2013, 09:30 AM Thread Starter
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thank you very much

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post #18 of 20 Old 04-25-2013, 11:34 PM
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ill post some in a moment. And the people who would be training and helping take care of her, are me when im home on weekends, then my friend who adores her and my Natural Horsemanship Trainer who adores her as well. I figure she, (and the foal if i decide to breed her) would be in good hands. So it's not as though she will be neglegted.

She tested negative for HYPP I already had her tested for that, everyone loves her markings. I wil post pictures in just a moment. I don't want any of you thinking im just going to breed her for the heck of it. I just want to think through my options. I know she would make a sweet caring mother, because when she sees a mini or a pony, she literally will lick it, and nuzzle it as though she were their mother. But my concern also is that without me there to train the both of them that it would just become a disaster. But at the same time I am also looking to start up my own barn and everything once I am done with college. It will be a show/therapeutic riding barn. just food for thought
You can't say that. Nothing is 100%. I've seen plenty of people say the same thing and have moms reject foals for whatever reason. I'd say focus on school first. I'm in my 4th year of college and I can tell you that you probably won't hop right out of school and instantly create a business. You have to make money first (that school pretty much eats away LOL) and a foal sure won't help the money situation.
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Breeding a pinto is a crap shoot. Yes, her markings are pretty, but there's no guarantee that a foal would be similarly marked...or marked at all. Example is my gelding, his half sister and their sire. Their sire is a (fugly) APHA stallion who is probably 80% white and 20% color (color on hi head, flank and butt). Aires (my gelding) is marked relatively 50/50 white and color and has very interesting markings that everyone loves. His half sister (Piper) is about 90% color and 10% white (high stockings and a white crescent on her butt). So to say that any horse should be bred because they are a pretty color or have pretty markings is completely asinine.

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I'd say definitely not. She looks like a nice enough horse, but there are some faults in her confo that would be a definite "no" to breeding her in my book.

You are about to go to college, there won't be time for her, let alone the time it takes to care for and train a foal properly.

Plus, you have to consider the cost of breeding. Not only do you have the stud fee and the vet check to ensure she's healthy enough for breeding, but you've got multiple vet checks for ultrasounds during the course of her pregnancy, you've got pre-natal shots, and any additional/special food she might need to maintain her condition while pregnant.

Then, you've got the risk associated with pregnancy and foaling. There is a very real possibility that you could lose the mare, the foal, or both during the birth. Do you have several thousand dollars saved up for vet costs in the event that something goes wrong? Are you prepared to lose the mare you love so much to complications from foaling? Are you prepared for the possibility of a foal born with a deformity that will have to be put down?

Are you prepared to dish out the money for the added farrier, feed, vet costs of another equine life? Are you prepared to pay for a trainer to train the foal since you're not going to have time for it?

Breeding a mare isn't something you jump into because "she'd be a great mom" or "it would be awesome to have a foal". You need to have a plan and a goal for the resulting life beyond the cuteness of the baby stage.

What are you going to do when the resulting foal is 2-3 years old and you're still at college?

Keep it and train it? Do you have the knowledge necessary to train a horse?

Sell it? Have you looked at horse prices? There are folks who can't give their horses away.

What if the foal gets injured at some point and is never sound for riding? What if something happens to you and you are no longer able to care for it?

If I had to guess, the person who told you that you could get a lot of money for one of her foals was only looking at one thing...her color.
everyone loves her markings
The problem with that is, you can't ride color and color doesn't guarantee a safe pregnancy and a healthy foal, it doesn't guarantee a good temperament or a productive foal.

Now, I don't want you to take this the wrong way. It's obvious that you love your mare and I'm sure she's an awesome horse, but if looked at from a strict breeding standpoint, she's just mediocre. Her conformation leaves a lot to be desired in a prospective broodmare, you didn't say whether or not she's got a show record but I get the feeling she doesn't, you didn't mention any particular discipline that she excels at.

So, the best you could really hope for would be a mediocre foal who's only real value would come from the training it gets.

It would be much easier (and cheaper) to go to an auction or browse one of the dozens of horse sale sites and pick up a weanling/yearling that's already on the ground. You could find one of comparable quality for less than a tank of gas. You could get a foal of much better quality for less than a stud fee.

Not only that, but when buying, you can get the conformation, color, sex, and temperament you want instead of playing the crap shoot which is breeding.
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