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    08-19-2009, 09:14 AM
Did she lose the baby?

This is some background. My broodmare, Slim, has had 2 foals. Both fillies, both nice and strong. She never had any complications with either pregnancy or birth, infact it was rather quite easy for her.

We gave her off one year of breeding because we didnt want to breed to a cheap stud, and couldnt decide on one. Well this year we bred to Artiscape. It was a $7,500 breeding, and she had to be pre-approved before they would accept her for breeding.

She went and we had her bred the week of may 2nd, they said she caught. We brought her home and she was checked again two times after, once by palpation, and the second time a sonogram. Both showed she was pregnant.

We have had other horses come to stay with us on and off, and now she is turned out with her first foal whos 3yrs old now (technically, by USTA standards she's 2). Since all of this she has been showing signs that she's in heat. Lifting her tail, winking, peeing, etc. its just been her and her foal for the past few weeks, and she began to show signs again last night.

Heres my question.... does this HAVE to mean she has lost the baby? I ask because, well A- im nervous, I really wanted this baby. And B- because I've seen horses actually go into a false heat immediately when around other horses. I have a mare, who has a marble. She has NOT gone into heat since having it put in aside from one day when another mare was messing with her when she was in the crossties. She was squealing at her and touching noses and such, and my mare went into instant heat, but was fine again the next day......

Anyone have any thoughts? Oh, and the vet is supposed to be checking her again in early October. So we really wanted to just stick it out til she comes to check her again because it does cost a pretty penny.
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    08-21-2009, 12:19 AM
I have a mare that has halse heat while she is bred it could be just that. But did she do that with the other pregnacies if not then you may want to have the vet check her before the october visit. I will pray that everything works out all right.
    08-21-2009, 08:43 AM
Thanks for the reply. She didnt do it with the other pregnancies. BUT, she also wasnt around any other horses at that time. She's been with other mares and geldings now.

My mother and I did some research and found that they can still show signs of heat when they are pregnant because of the different levels of hormones they experience. I suppose this could be it, but its just heightened because of the presence of other horses. There I guess still is a chance she could have lost it. I truly don't believe she did though, since she has been such a great carrier.
    08-21-2009, 09:27 AM
I have owned mares who would "show" during pregnancy. One mare would wink, pee, squat, and etc., but it was more of a nervous/excitement type action when she saw other horses-- she was not really presenting herself to be bred-- she probably would not have let a stallion mount. Another mare would back up to a fence to let a gelding tease her up through her 10th month of pregnancy. She was "showing" and making a bag at the same time! This mare later was used to teach stallions to be collected for AI because she was so "willing" so often, LOL.

Of course mares do slip pregnancies occasionally as well.

If it is too late in the year for you to consider re-breeding this year if by chance she did slip the pregnancy, I would not have your mare re-checked until her scheduled October visit. If you would re-breed this year, then I would get her checked ASAP, since by October would probably be too late for rebreeding.
    08-21-2009, 11:10 AM
It's pretty standard to to pregnancy diagnoses at 14 days, 28 days, and 60 days. 14 confirms the pregnancy at the time of fixation and makes sure there is not a twinning, 28 you can detect the heartbeat, and 60 to make sure there was not early embryonic death. If you have any question about the pregnancy, I'd opt for another ultrasound. It should cost less than $100 and for the amount you invest in putting a foal on the ground is well worth it. If she has had early death, you need to have a biopsy and cytology done to confirm the reason why.

We just had this situation with a mare in hospital and because we were on top of it were able to diagnose a very early uterine tumor. Luckily we can do surgery and the mare should still be able to have future foals. *NOT saying your mare has a tumor!!!!* just saying being on top of these things gives the best outcome!

Best of luck!
    08-22-2009, 09:27 AM
Originally Posted by Eastowest    
If it is too late in the year for you to consider re-breeding this year if by chance she did slip the pregnancy, I would not have your mare re-checked until her scheduled October visit. If you would re-breed this year, then I would get her checked ASAP, since by October would probably be too late for rebreeding.
i think we are just going to wait til october. There is no shot of re-breeding her this year. And we decided if she lost this one, we probably wont breed her again, atleast until we see how her first two foals pan out racing.

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