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post #11 of 36 Old 06-16-2009, 10:56 AM
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JustDressageIt - thank you

The original colt is out of an unbroke, unraced, unshown mare that was purported to achieve a mature height of 14.3-15hh as per her owner's email to me, and that dam is also out of an unbroke, unshown, unraced sire

The sire of the original colt is backed and they intend to pursue a show career with him - probably in the hunter ring

There is NOTHING and I mean NOTHING in the original colt's pedigree - top or bottom - that would make any race breeder look at him at all, if it wasnt for the colouring

At least with my crew, Guaranteed Gold was backed and shown (eventing) and he was presented for Canadian Sport Horse approval and did have to fulfill their performance criteria. Through the dam lines, Puchilingui DID race and my Puchi Trap mare (the dam of the Remember My Name colt) also did race and had moderate success with very few starts before I claimed her off her last race

So - just a bit of background on all of them ...

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post #12 of 36 Old 06-16-2009, 11:26 AM
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Thank you for the informative post, TrueColors. I appreicate it.
The colt in teh OP looks very unbalanced to me. From small forequarters to long pasterns, he doesn't shout "I'm going to race well and be sound doing it!" at all.
Your colt, on the other hand, is quite the specimen... I would like him even if he was .. well I can' tthink of an ugly color... To top it off, then there's the icing on the cake - the color.

"A good horse is never a bad color" comes to mind.


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Thanks for that TrueColors! I was very interested in knowing as well. As I said in a previous post, I've never been a huge fan of Thoroughbred's from looking at so many racehorses and OTTB's. They always just seem veryy gangly and often with a lot of conformation faults (maybe I see them as faults, maybe they're actually neccesary for a racehorse?) After looking at your divine horses, I wouldn't think twice about owning one. And I agree with JDI, they could be chestnut or bay and I'd still be impressed. The color is just a bonus!

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post #14 of 36 Old 06-16-2009, 11:41 AM
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Yes, well.. *cough* this horse was supposed to be a big winner:



He looks so much ... less ugly.. when he's moving or at a 3/4 view...



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post #15 of 36 Old 06-16-2009, 11:49 AM
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Thank you again ...

I completely and totally adore the RMN colt. I am his breeder but he was sold at 2 weeks of age to my client in Scotland who still owns him now (even though as he is with me here in Canada, I threaten to "make him disappear" pretty well on a daily basis! )

He is officially for sale, but if he isnt sold within the next month or so, and I cant convince them to leave him with me any longer , he is going into quarantine and heading over to Scotland where the intention is to back him and send him to the track in the UK which would be SO exciting as well! He is such a big strong colt, with a big engine in behind, and he has been allowed to grow and mature at his own rate, I think he would make a very successful and sound race horse in the years to come as well. Plus I'm sure he'd create quite a stir at the tracks as well with his VERY noticeably "different" colouring!

We have some Guaranteed Gold offspring and grand offspring hitting the race track this year and its going to be a lot of fun watching their progress (and hopefully their succcesses!) as well ...

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JDI - I also meant to add I LOVE how your guy moves and how his parts fit together for the job at hand. No - he's not perfect (and I havent found anything out there yet that is! )but you're not breeding him either and the criteria I would use for a stallion or broodmare is far different than what you would use to select your next performance partner. And I love his expression as well - and he's NOT "ugly" at all!!! (poor guy ...)

Pauline Dress - you should also be aware that the Norsire cremello colt goes far beyond what most of "us breeders " would consider acceptable as far as inbreeding goes. His dam is Ebony Gold Orchid by Billionair. She was bred to Zillionair - the FULL BROTHER of her sire ... ... why??? ... guess so the chances were greater to get a double dilute because I sure cant think of ANY other reason to do so other than colour in this case ...

So unless you LIKE highly inbred horses for some reason just something for you to be very aware of ...

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The OP colt is pretty, but he probably wouldn't be great for racing or siring racing horses. He looks like more of the classical style rather than racing style. I also heard that white or dilute TB's aren't as fast and don't make good racers for whatever reason. Just a heads up.

And TrueColours, I just have to say that your horses are nothing short of stunning!

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I also heard that white or dilute TB's aren't as fast and don't make good racers for whatever reason. Just a heads up.
Ack!!!

This drives me nutty ...:roll:

White and palomino and buckskin TB's can run just as fast or just as slow as bay and chestnut ones ...

If they are built correctly, trained correctly and can outrun a fat man in rubber boots, they have a chance of being a productive race horse ...

Being white or palomino or buckskin doesnt make them faster or slower ...

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And TrueColours, I just have to say that your horses are nothing short of stunning!
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JDI - I also meant to add I LOVE how your guy moves and how his parts fit together for the job at hand. No - he's not perfect (and I havent found anything out there yet that is! )but you're not breeding him either and the criteria I would use for a stallion or broodmare is far different than what you would use to select your next performance partner. And I love his expression as well - and he's NOT "ugly" at all!!! (poor guy ...)
Thank you! He's my boy and I love him to pieces. Such a sweet horse that tries his hardest. I agree, he moves like a dream as well - thank you for your kind comments!


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Hi TrueColours

I'm not a TB-person, but I've spent a lifetime with horses - I breed Pure Spanish PREs.

What pleasure to (a) see your horses and (b) read your rational posts about colour!

Thank you. (off to look at your website)

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