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post #21 of 36 Old 06-24-2009, 10:17 AM
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Thanks equimed - I appreciate it very very much ...

Your website is a feast for the eyes! Are these all your horses or do some belong to clients as well? What a simply lovely and classy group of horses ...

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post #22 of 36 Old 06-24-2009, 09:56 PM
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If they are built correctly, trained correctly and can outrun a fat man in rubber boots...

-snort- xDD ahaha! THAT cracked me up! Oh please tell me your going to put that in your signature, it's classic, I love it.

It's honestly hard to decide which of your horses I like the most...I'm such a sucker for Sabino's and weird colorations...it's hopeless.

Wait! I'll fix it....
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post #23 of 36 Old 06-25-2009, 07:02 AM
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-snort- xDD ahaha! THAT cracked me up! Oh please tell me your going to put that in your signature, it's classic, I love it.
I have to admit a friend of mine came up with that one, when we were discussing the dilute TB's hitting the track. She worked in a bloodstock agency for the Middle Eastern sheikhs for several years and her knowledge of TB bloodlines is impeccable and when I find a mare that I just have to have, or one that I find "interesting" she is a wonderful sounding board as to why I really do or don't need that particuar mare!

So ... when we were discussing the palys hitting the track, she made the comment that "most of them should be able to outrun a fat man in rubber boots" which is more than can be said for a lot of the bays and chestnuts out there as well ...

And I thought it was just as cute as heck!

And talking about horses - I LOVE the one in your avatar. I'd kill to produce something that had that kind of colouring ...

What is he - a bay roan sabino? Or a dun roan? Or ???? What a neat looking guy!

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post #24 of 36 Old 06-25-2009, 03:55 PM
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I find the OPs colt to be almost ugly, but maybe he will grow into that super long neck and funky looking body. I wouldn't call him breeding quality really either. I personally I get so annoyed at people who breed color first and then conformation last.

I suppose any TB can race, that doesn't mean they will be good at it. When I think of a racehorse I picture a tall horse with long legs and a leaner more muscular body, which that colt doesnt really have.

TrueColours - Your horses are very pretty! I'm just curious, I didnt know TBs could have pinto markings. Is this a newer thing? Or am I just naive?
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post #25 of 36 Old 06-26-2009, 07:06 AM
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I find the OPs colt to be almost ugly, but maybe he will grow into that super long neck and funky looking body. I wouldn't call him breeding quality really either. I personally I get so annoyed at people who breed color first and then conformation last.
That original picture has been photoshopped - a lot!

Look at the greenery underneath his head - it doesnt match the greenery above, and how there is nothing underneath his head from the halter. NO halter fits like that - the leather bits underneath and the ring has been photoshopped out - why??? - to streamline his head more???

Check out the upright post with the ziggedy zaggedy metal on it. There is no ziggedy metal piece underneath his jowl area. Appears to be photoshopped out as well ...

And check how the fence rails don't line up properly underneath his neck - again - it appears that his neck underneath has been photoshopped as well - why??? - to maybe give it a more "streamlined" appearance???

I hate hate hate when you look at a picture and can see some obvious photoshopping done and wonder WHY someone has done so ... .. especially in something that someone is promoting for sale or for standing at stud down the road

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TrueColours - Your horses are very pretty! I'm just curious, I didnt know TBs could have pinto markings. Is this a newer thing? Or am I just naive?
Thanks!

No - this is actually a very OLD thing ...

The Tetrarch is acknowledged as the grandaddy of all of the coloured TB's and he goes back well over 100 years ...



The biggest problem that the "coloured" TB's have had over the years is the Jockey Club's reluctance to acknowledge them as "real" TB's. I know that Jerry Tyler fought for years with his stallion Puchilingui because of his wild colouring and it cost him a great deal of money to do so. Years ago when I was showing in the jumper ring, Sam Son Farms (huge reputable racing and breeding outfit up here in Canada) produced a beautiful bay colt with wild white markings on his body and they fought for 4-5 years to get him registered and by the time they did so, it was too late to start his race career so a friend of mine and theirs ended up with him as her super special hunter ...

So - the big problem was the JC;s attitude towards them and if the owners werent prepared to fight to get them registered, oftentimes they ended up as "grades" and no one even knew they WERE TB's ...

Here is a page I put together on my website for "Cool and Unusually Coloured Thoroughbreds"

Cool and Unusual Thoroughbreds!!!

There are TB's that come in colours and markings most people don't associate with the TB breed at all!

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post #26 of 36 Old 07-06-2009, 02:25 AM
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True Colours, I love that Remember My Name colt!
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post #27 of 36 Old 07-06-2009, 04:42 AM
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I hate seeing these types of forums - I would hope that most forum users would see through the blatant attempt to commercial push ones own stallion/colt over another. Pauline obviously like the cremello she posted and to publically write rubbish about the other is ridicilous.

True Colours knew exactly where is stood but didn't want to give anything up because she'd prefer to simply push her own agenda.

This is difference between the two; as I see
The first cremello has stunning head and fine points, most show people would tell you he is of an exceptional standard. Give that colt some time to grow into his own and he will be one of the best.

The second is a nice type too but I bet True Colours will want ridiculous money simply for 'colour' I could go to Germany and buy one of the foals around and it wouldn't be close the price tag on the True Colours colt.......

Stop slamming the opposition! There is other good progeny around.

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post #28 of 36 Old 07-06-2009, 08:42 AM
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That's funny True Colors, I actually discovered that page ages ago I just forgot all about it!

CKStud - I don't think we were trying to slam the other horse, we were just curious as to what makes him such a great racing prospect when he looks more like a sporthorse build.
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post #29 of 36 Old 07-06-2009, 06:36 PM
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Hello new poster CK Stud ...

I would dearly love to see an UNPHOTOSHOPPED version of that original colt so we could all make our minds up as to whether we actually liked him or not. That ***stunning head*** as you post so eloquently about has had the living beejesus photoshopped out of it as do other photo's on that same breeders site.

How about THESE mares as well:

ColorWorld Ranch Broodmares

I am sorry - but Annie up the Gold looks horrible with that terrible photoshop job done on her head, her neck, her mane and God knows what else. Same with the other mares

Why do any photoshopping at all instead of allowing these horses to stand on their own merits - good AND bad?!

Hell - the most I will ever photoshop out is a pile of manure laying on the ground behind them and/or a manure or dirt stain on their coats. To do any modifications to the look and structure of the horse itself, especially animals to be used for breeding, is completely and totally unethical

And I suggest that you DO go to Germany then and perhaps Sweden and England too, to see if you can find what you are looking for in a lower price range. Wont bother me one single bit ...

I am NOT slamming the opposition at all. :roll: I am slamming the fact that the breeder saw fit to use an obviously grossly photoshopped photo to promote and advertise him with. HUGE difference!

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True Colours, I love that Remember My Name colt!
Thanks glimmergirl. So do I. I wish I could think of some way to make him stay over here in North America for awhile longer ...

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post #30 of 36 Old 07-06-2009, 10:32 PM
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I am no pro with photography, correct me if I am wrong, but my uneducated eye sees those pictures being photoshopped.

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